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Our darling little Sophie is quite the devil as she attacks any of our other dogs the instant they are in pain and crying. Piranha! Apparently, she didn't get the memo she's a Havanse not a Pitbull lol. She's a little angel when she's not guarding her food or attacking a dog in pain. Last night, her mother, Mimi was playing with our other dogs (we have 5) and every now and then she gets this hitch in her leg and starts crying and limping around. Then the next instant there was devious little Sophie on her back attacking her and trying to pin her. Wth, is wrong with her!?! Anyone else experience this with their "darling" little Hav? lol
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By "attacking her", do you mean in a playful way or in a "let's put you out of your misery & kill you" sort of way?
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"Lets put you out of your misery & kill you." Although, I don't think she'd go that far. Well, I hope not! Never really seen any blood drawn or chunks missing. I'd blame this on her pregnancy hormones except she's done it when she's not.. Dominance issue? Reminds me of a hyena, don't they attack their own?
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Sounds like you may have a little alpha on your hands!
Have you had her moms "stitch" checked out? Sounds like it could be a patella issue, or hip displasia-
I have no ideas for you as far as the attacking goes- mine will get in little squabbles, but never anything serious or paranah-like! LoL


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I know they say historically dogs will take out the weak ones in their pack cause it would cause the pack danger overall. I am not sure how much truth that still holds or how often it happens. With my maltese Belle, you take her to a play date or a dog park and in two seconds flat she picks out the weak submissive dog and embarrasses me (yes one time it was a 3 legged dog). While she is being a brat and showing off, I don't think she is really trying to injure the dog though. It seems to work cause Belle never is the dog who gets picked on and almost always the smallest. I just do my part in intervening by usually getting her to concentrate on something else.

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Yeah, she's definitely Alpha just never heard of another dog going after thats in pain except a maybe a fighting dog. Crazy thing is that this has happened a couple times before and we just saw the vet last night. Of course, when it doesn't happen for awhile you forget to ask. We had her x-rayed for bladder stones as we noticed her pH was a bit low (there were NONE! Means that the Wysong Biotic pH+ is working, just have to use it 2x a day not once.). Anyways, maybe we could have the vet re-check the X-ray for whats causing her stitch? She's getting up there in age. She'll be 12 on Cinco de Mayo. She's had OFA testing on her legs & hips but its been some time. Arthiritis?
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Awww sweet girl, I didn't know she was 12! It could def be arthritis-
Congrats on the "no stones!" woooo hoooooo!!!


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One of the ways I know that my big old dogs arthritic back is acting up or his pain is not under proper control is other dogs are very aggressive to him. To the point of trying to start a bona fide fight with him. If Sophie is a dominant dog by nature then she most likely would take advantage of this weakness. It's like they forget they know the dog who they are attacking and only focus on the weakness. It is an instinctual behavior, one of those one's that remind you that they are descendants of wolves.

The way I protect my big dog from the 4 little ones is to show them that if they mess with him they will have to get thru me, the pack leader. Now my little dogs do not go after him hard core but if they do show any aggression towards him that is not clearly play I'll do an act of dominance towards them.

I notice they attack usually right after he lies down. He has his most pain getting into the lying down position and it can take him up to a minute of circling and positioning before he gets the courage to make the move. Their attack usually makes him stand up and it starts all over again. So you can see why I intervene very quickly.

Also if Sophie is pregnant this might enhance her instinct to "cull the weak" or perhaps it has given her a grand feeling of superiority that she is trying to exert at an opportune time .

I grew up with sled dogs so I saw a lot of natural behavior. I am amazed at how much of that behavior I see in my sweet little havanese and the toy poodle. Even though they are pampered little indoor dogs.

It's kind of sickening to see a dog you love go after a weakened dog you love isn't it? Even if they don't draw blood.

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Awww sweet girl, I didn't know she was 12! It could def be arthritis-
Congrats on the "no stones!" woooo hoooooo!!!
Yeah, I can't believe she's already 12! I got her for my 14th birthday. Definitely thrilled that we have no stones

Peppertoast - thanks for the insight, I'll have to start be showing the others my dominance. Hopefully, I'll be able to ward her off of them. Might need some holy water and a cross lol.
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And to think she started off looking innocent. lol.

Sophie as a newborn & mother, Mimi.

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