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Havs and Poodles....Anyone have both breeds?

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I adore the Havanese breed but I have always liked variety and I have never had two of the same breed. We are thinking of adding a toy or mini poodle to our family. Does anyone on the forum have a poodle and Havanese?

How would you compare the poodle to the Havanese? Activity level, barking, intelligence, affection, etc.?

Thank you and love to see photos, love pictures.

Also, toy or mini any difference other than the obvious size?

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Not much interaction with poodles except in classes.

Poodles are UBER-smart. The ones I have met didn't seem to be barky but since they are so smart, I think you can train them not to bark.

Poodles are athletes. I think the curls make them even bouncier. Maybe it was the classes I was in but the dogs were "ON". They weren't misbehaving, quite the opposite, but they were very alert.

Sure there were a few times they had spaz attacks like any dog but they had them with flair. LOL!

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I do like Poodles, but i think there is even more variation in temperament than there is with Havanese. Some can be a bit snappy, others are sweethearts. Some have WAY high energy levels, some are very, VERY serious. In general, as Pam said, I think it's a really smart, trainable breed.

There used to be a couple of people on the forum with both Poodles and Havanese. One gal, the one with Louis, (the Havanese she purposely cut down, then did regular updates for us as she grew him back out... She's a groomer) also has a standard Poodle. I have to say, if I were going to get a Poodle, I'd want a standard. Everyone I know is a lovely dog with a great temperament. One is a bit of a goof ball, but the others (I know 4 or 5) are uber serious and sweet.


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Yeah, I agree. A standard size seems to have the best personality. Teacups are nasty. Inbreeding? Or maybe from being stuck in women's purses? I liked the mini over the toy but I think it is my personal preference. They seemed sturdier. I am clumsy and am afraid of tripping over a little dog. My Jack is a very sturdy bigger Hav.

I suggest meeting some breeders and spending time with some bouncy poodles.

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My Mom has two toy poodles and my grandfather has one. I agree there is a variation in temperament more within poodles than Havanese from my limited experience with both. However some of the toy poodles we have had and have are absolute mind-readers. All of our have been yappy, but then I think part of that is training, too. They are definitely athletic and definitely eager to work for you, but with their intelligence levels you need to be prepared to direct that brain where you want it to go! Otherwise they will figure out their own version pretty quickly.

I adore toy poodles, and we have also had Bichons in our family. The Bichons always had bad recall (again, I know it is mainly training but I'm making some pretty major generalizations here) but LOVED everybody they met and were just sweethearts in general. The poodles seem to stick to you like glue- there's almost no way they would run out on you from what I have seen- but are more wary of new people and can be a bit more "one-person" in my opinion. I decided to give Havanese a try as I was hoping to get the best of both worlds, and so far I would say I have! They are devoted to you but are also happy to meet new people generally. They are athletic and smart but not to the point where if you don't direct it it goes awry.

Those are my opinions- just observations on my own family's dogs over the years, and my Hav puppy now.

I think the toys are great but you do need to be a lot more careful to work with a breeder who really takes care with the temperaments and make a good choice based on that. Many of them are bred more for appearance especially smaller size ones from what I have seen. The poodles we have had from our local breeder in Ontario have been great quality health-wise but I have also heard of a lot of heart problems and things with less well-bred poodles or unscrupulous breeders. Hmm now I want a toy poodle too! Time to go home and visit the family dogs Of course I'm afraid Archer will pick up a barking habit from them- better wait till he is older before they meet! My family is across the country.


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