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|Havanese according to CBARQ

James Serpell just mentioned on the SPARCS conference that our beloved Havanese displays less problems related to small dog syndrome. according to his CBARQ study.

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Oh, I missed that! I've been watching on and off today. I'll have to buy the DVD. But good to know, I think we already knew that! And , an interesting discussion on choosing a dog by coat color!

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Dave, at the end of the conference each day, after going off the air, the live audience was able to ask the panel their questions. I asked Dr. Serpell whether he had any data from the C-BARQ on whether, especially with all these small dogs who did so poorly, whether they were puppy mill dogs. He told me that the dogs identified as having been obtained from pet shops (i.e. Puppy mill dogs) did consistently worse, across measures, than the dogs from breeders. The problem is, that it would take much more research to tease out whether these behavior problems were genetic, from care of the mothers during pregnancy, from the conditions under which the puppies were raised, or whether the fact that they had been purchased by less knowledgeable people, who therefore didn't train them as well at home was causal.

And yes, the only other small breed dog that rated (almost) as well as Havanese were Cavalier King Charles... And, unfortunately, they have terrible health problems.

Rita, there is no CD, but you can become a SPARCS member, which gives you access to ALL the content from this conference and last year's as well for a full year. It's well worth it.

It was a great weekend overall, with a LOT to digest. Right now, I'm heading for BED!!!!


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I wasn't able to watch on Saturday, but today one of the presenters referred to the apparent brain or other morphological differences in small dogs contributing to them being quite different in behaviour from larger dogs? Is that what you are referring to? I'd like to learn more about that as it could specifically inform what training approach you take with small dogs.

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I wasn't able to watch on Saturday, but today one of the presenters referred to the apparent brain or other morphological differences in small dogs contributing to them being quite different in behaviour from larger dogs? Is that what you are referring to? I'd like to learn more about that as it could specifically inform what training approach you take with small dogs.
No, I think that was Ray Coppinger. (who is a hoot too talk to in person, BTW) He was talking about wrk that had been done implanting certain facial cells from ducks into quail, and how the different "apparatus" did, indeed make the resultant animal eat differently. But he also said that except in rare instances (i.e. the CKC) the skull size adapts to the brain size as it grows, so that the skull does not typically limit brain development.

The other thing that Dr. Serpell was very careful to say is that because the C-BARQ is an owner-report form as a way of collecting large amounts of information, and NOT observation of behavior using scientific method, there are always questions that can't be answered, that can throw a wrench in results. (he specifically said, without prompting, that maybe Havanese owners, as a whole, were more knowledgeable, attentive owners who spent more time on training and socialization of their dogs… ) Nice to pat ourselves on the backs, but I kind of doubt this explanation.


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yeah C BARQ is open to some error and many trainers question surveys given to owners ,especially when it comes to aggression questions. Yeah it was a good seminar, hopefully they'll raise some money for research .

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yeah C BARQ is open to some error and many trainers question surveys given to owners ,especially when it comes to aggression questions. Yeah it was a good seminar, hopefully they'll raise some money for research .
THAT all depends on people spreading the word and getting people to either subscribe or at least donate! Several of these speakers are now on an official SPARCS BOD, so it's not ALL on Preston anymore. My understanding is that they did pick up a LOT more subscribers this weekend. They really are doing an amazing job, considering that it's only year two.


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yeah our IAABC is a sponsor. They wiil need money though, as these things are not cheap to put on.

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yeah our IAABC is a sponsor. They wiil need money though, as these things are not cheap to put on.
No, but I run conferences like this, and they charged PLENTY of money from the attendees to cover the costs of the conference, itself. Obviously, they need LOTS more members to get to the point that they can give meaningful research grants, but they didn't go in the hole on this conference. I'm sure of that.


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