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Dogs running into you

Weird question, but have any of you had your Havs run right into you? I don't know if I'm getting in the way while they're doing RLH or if my dogs (especially Ginny) are a little uncoordinated.
Yesterday, I was trying to let the dogs outside to potty and both of them, chasing each other, slammed right into my legs. It knocked me over and really tweaked my back!
Ginny has head-butted me in the legs at least twice to the point I've been bruised.
Just wondering if this is a really unusual experience - if I'm getting in the way somehow or if they can be trained to not be so out of control.
Is it me or them?
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Weird question, but have any of you had your Havs run right into you? I don't know if I'm getting in the way while they're doing RLH or if my dogs (especially Ginny) are a little uncoordinated.
Yesterday, I was trying to let the dogs outside to potty and both of them, chasing each other, slammed right into my legs. It knocked me over and really tweaked my back!
Ginny has head-butted me in the legs at least twice to the point I've been bruised.
Just wondering if this is a really unusual experience - if I'm getting in the way somehow or if they can be trained to not be so out of control.
Is it me or them?
They can definitely be trained not to be so out of control. How old are they?


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Ginny turned 2 in April and Griffin turned 1 in April. They are exactly a year apart.
So...both still young.
Seems like part of the RLH is to dart in an unexpected direction - usually the one I'm in.
Good to know there might be some training that could help.
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Ginny turned 2 in April and Griffin turned 1 in April. They are exactly a year apart.
So...both still young.
Seems like part of the RLH is to dart in an unexpected direction - usually the one I'm in.
Good to know there might be some training that could help.
Actually, most of the RLH that I see is in large circles, if they have the room. Do you have a yard? If so, when they start to ramp up, I'd call them both to you, ask them to do something, a couple of sits, downs, whatever, then give them a cookie for giving you their attention. Then let them out into the yard, and encourage them to burn off their excess energy out there!

If that's not an option, watch them carefully when they get in that mode. Stand still, so they don't surprise you, and if they come toward you, clap your hands sharply, and come up with some quick warning word. That can be anything you want, that means, specifically, that they are getting out of control. I wouldn't use "no", because that is used in too many other contexts. But you could use "STOP!" or "SETTLE!" …or really anything you choose. This will PROBABLY get their attention enough for them to veer away.

If they are still running into you, keep a broom near by. Obviously, YOU aren't going to hit them with it, but natural consequences are often the best learning tool of all. Just hold the broom upright, between you and them, bristles against the floor. If they aren't paying attention, and run into the broom, they certainly aren't going to hurt themselves, but it will startle them, and they will learn to watch what they are doing a bit more.

They ARE still young, especially with a one year old (essentially still a puppy) to egg the near-adult on. A lot of this will fade with age, no matter what you do, but in the mean time, there is no reason for you to get hurt. Let's face it. If they were two Labradors, there is no way you could allow this level of over-excitement. They can play and have fun and still be aware of their surroundings.


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Oh, and I forgot to say, this should NEVER happen in a door way. They need to learn to go though doorways CALMLY. You might want to have a local trainer in to help you teach this, and you will probably have to teach it to each separately to start with. But They both need to be CALM, or they are not allowed through a door. I don't believe in CM's nonsense about the "pack leader" going through the door first, but we have to teach our dogs manners, just as we do our children.

They should stay back away from the door when you open it, and only go through the door when you give them permission. This is just safety. There are times when we open the door (for the mail man or whatever) when we don't WANT our dog to go out. No charging through. Kodi knows the cue "back" and knows that means that he needs to back away from whatever, including the door. Other people teach their dogs to sit/stay back away from the door, then release them to go through the door, one at a time. Either is fine, it's a matter of choice.

But barging through doorways has NOTHING to do with RLH… that's just needing to learn some manners.


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Wow, Karen, such great advice! Thank you VERY much for taking the time to help me.
We do have a yard - and that is a great place for RLH - but for a variety of reasons, whether it's after dark or raining outside, they play inside, downstairs.
I think coming up with a warning word will be great. The broom idea (just holding it ) is also a good idea.
And, yes, good point about making them exit the house calmly. I probably haven't been as consistent on that as I should.
Thanks again!!!!!
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We are in the process of retraining/reinforcing the doorway manners. Jack and Nessie were charging through and wiping out all humans in the way. So annoying. >

Then I have to work on Jack's last quirk. He shoves you in excitement with his front paws. Actually slams you or the cabinets if he thinks he is going to get a special treat. Just as you solve one problem, they create a new one.

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We are in the process of retraining/reinforcing the doorway manners. Jack and Nessie were charging through and wiping out all humans in the way. So annoying. >

Then I have to work on Jack's last quirk. He shoves you in excitement with his front paws. Actually slams you or the cabinets if he thinks he is going to get a special treat. Just as you solve one problem, they create a new one.
So true! It's an ongoing process.
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We are in the process of retraining/reinforcing the doorway manners. Jack and Nessie were charging through and wiping out all humans in the way. So annoying. >

Then I have to work on Jack's last quirk. He shoves you in excitement with his front paws. Actually slams you or the cabinets if he thinks he is going to get a special treat. Just as you solve one problem, they create a new one.
Kodi did the slamming thing when he was younger. Fortunately, we were able to get rid of that one. It's amazing how much force they can generate when they hit you right in the back of your knees!


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