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Sad brutal attack on small dog:(

My sister told me yesterday she had to put her Doberman down. He viciously attacked her 8 pound Brussels Griffon he was raised with. He was about 3 years old and his sister Ginger was about 8. She was the sweetest dog you ever met. For no reason, he just attacked her. Now she is left with only one eye and who knows if she can see out of the other. I cried after seeing the pictures. I keep playing the details out in my head.

The sad thing is, I just warned my sister last week to keep him away from other dogs. I told her he was aggressive and would kill another dog. She got defensive and told me he would never hurt another dog, insisting taking him to the dog park off leash was ok….I lectured her for about a year to get a trainer, but she just denied it. I knew he would hurt another dog but I had no idea it would be his sitter

This made me realize the danger of large dogs to our toy ones. If a large dog decided to attack, our Hav's wouldn't stand a chance. Be careful with them…

Prayers to the Jonah, who got put down and Ginger






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Such a sad story. I hope little Ginger will be ok and can recover from this trauma.



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I feel so bad for both dogs. You are right, people who make the choice to mix large and small breeds have a heavy responsibility to keep the small one safe.

It is really rare that a dog who has previously gotten along well with another in the same household will attack "with no reason", but it is not at all uncommon for the "reasons" to be missed by the family. It's like the dogs who bite children's faces... In most cases, they have given TONS of warning signs that they are uncomfortable before they bite.

I have a freind who is an excellent trainer who owns a feisty little Papilion and the worlds sweetest, field-bred Golden. Both dogs are highly trained obedience competitors. One day the Papilion pushed the Golden beyond her tolerance. She snapped at the smaller dog just once... A snap that would have just been a warning bite to a similar sized dog. The little one ended up in the hospital for a week. Now they are not allowed loose in the same room together unless they are sitting on the couch with her between them to make sure BOTH are feeling comfortable.

If people ARE going to keep large and small dogs together, they need to work REALLY hard to socialize both and make sure there is very good chemistry between them. Even then, to be safe, they should probably be separate when there is no one home to supervise.

Similar sized dogs, even those who live together, often get into tiffs, and there is rarely any harm done. It's when there is a large size difference (which dogs don't understand) that things go wrong. Your sister's Griffon has paid a huge price, but the Dobie paid the ultimate price.


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So sorry to hear that story, Linda. I have an acquaintance who takes her Papilion/Poodle mix to the dog park and puts him in the large dog section. She has had to break up a few fights where she almost got bitten herself, but continues the practice. I fear that someday she may face the same situation your sister just did. It's a hard lesson for the dogs and owners alike.

On a more positive note, however, we had a Bichon who burst an eye when he bumped into a piece of furniture and had to have it surgically removed. He eventually went blind in the other eye due to senile cataracts and got around just fine. He even managed to go up and down the steps to go out to do his duties, continued to go for leashed walks with us and played with Bailey and Tyler without any problem. Actually, I feel as though they acted as his seeing eye dogs.

Please let your sister know we are thinking of her and that there is hope for Ginger.


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It's something a lot of people don't think about. It's a huge fear of mine. When we are walking, I don't let my guys get near big dogs anymore, It's just a risk I don't want to take.
The sad thing is there were warning signs my sister chose to ignore. Her Doberman bit her and her child. He would also go after her other small dog in the past.....That's why I have been lecturing her for the past year. It's a shame she didn't take me seriously.





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its a shame she didn't take it seriously.

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What a shame, I'm so sorry.

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It's something a lot of people don't think about. It's a huge fear of mine. When we are walking, I don't let my guys get near big dogs anymore, It's just a risk I don't want to take.
The sad thing is there were warning signs my sister chose to ignore. Her Doberman bit her and her child. He would also go after her other small dog in the past.....That's why I have been lecturing her for the past year. It's a shame she didn't take me seriously.
Some people don't want to hear anything. Such a tragedy.

BTW, my Bichon lived to be three months shy of 17. His lack of sight never got in the way.


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What a shame and after you warning your sister. It's really awful.


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So sad for all affected. Leo (10.5-11lbs) lives with Porter (70 lbs) and Becca (50 lbs)and they get along very well. That said we have baby gates at most of the doorways in our house and if we step away from the group, a gate is closed between the big dogs and Leo. If we leave the house, Leo is in his expen in one room with a closed baby gate and the other two are in another room with a closed baby gate. When they are all together and the play starts getting rowdy, we intervene and calm it down. We love our big dogs and our little dog but anyone who mixes the two must understand and accept the extra responsibility that goes along with that combination.



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