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Keep that hair out of their eyes.

My wife likes to tie Molly's hair in a bow because it looks cute. And it does. But one reason to keep the hair out of their eyes is communication . When another dog cannot see your dogs eyes it might react aggressively. Eye communication is vital when meeting other dogs . It is one of many ways they tell each other how they feel . Another good reason is that if your dog cannot see properly it will be overly reactive to simply sounds and movement simply because it cannot see properly. And contrary to what some people think , dogs cannot see properly with too much hair in the way. I have seen Molly run into things when her hair is down. Safety is obviously a concern. But here is a story by a fellow member at IPDTA that I got today.


a local rescue that i worked-with, especially
when they had dogs arrive with behavioral-issues,
had a dog that the foster brought to class, just
to see how she did-- OMG, what a mess!

we could hear her coming a quarter-mile off, as soon
as they entered the big city-park; baseball diamonds,
soccer pitch, open-air bandshell, huge lawns, etc,
plus copses of mature 60-ft and up trees;
and we can HEAR this screaming, barking dog!!

she was un-believably reactive; the mere sound
of a dog set her off, barking maniacally + also
lunging with wild force, very dangerous.
she was an odd-looking dog with loopy hair
in coarse, wiry curls with a kinky undercoat;
at one point, when she was a good ways off from
the nearest dog, i took her lead, slowly brought
her closer in repeated arcs, and as soon as she
launched a pre-emptive LUNGE, i let her hit the
end of the leash + come down on all-4s, short,
while i said = No = in a dead-flat hard voice.
that was the FIRST time she *** looked at me ** -
all of her attn til then was outward.

THAT was when i saw how her eyes were hidden -
her bangs were falling over them. she came to
my house 3x - the very-first visit, i trimmed
her face carefully, leaving her eyes fully
exposed + trimming her stinky beard, too.
20-mins later, outside, i had a different dog!!

turned-out she was reacting to tag-noise...
she could not see other dogs well, so she would
alert + drive them off, as a defensive measure.

she was under-socialized, but SO LONG as her eyes
were clear of hair, she was no longer reactive;
and the incessant, sharp terrier-barking went
way-down, too. she weighed about 40#; imagine
the relentless barks of a JRT, but bigger --
yipes!

she was adopted within the month;
very successful, owners + dog happy.
cheers,
---- terry

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Dusty does not come to me when she thinks she will be brushed, but she comes quite willingly when she sees the comb and elastic for her bangs. She has lots of head hair that falls straight into her eyes-no nice part for her. She does run into things if it's down, so we keep it up all the time. I don't think I've noticed any behavior changes, but she definitely prefers her hair out of her eyes.

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How does this theory apply to breeds such as a sheepdog?

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I'm trying to be patient with Murphy's hair and let it grow but it's driving me nuts! The poor little guy can't see sometimes. I try to wet the hair and twist it a bit so it will stay down away from his eyes.

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How does this theory apply to breeds such as a sheepdog?
Same with any dog Julie. Bearded Collie , Komondor ,any dog with hair blocking their eyes. Also , I meant to mention that black faced dogs are harder for another dog to read as well.

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This is so interesting. I'm glad to know that those hairs were not just driving me nuts. We keep the girls quite short now. Started out with a longish puppy cut and kept getting shorter. It is just so hot here. They seem to be much more comfortable.

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My two are very willing to sit still and be very patient as I put their top knots in every morning. Now, grooming is another story....
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I have heard it about black dogs and about dog's who don't have tails since dog's look more at body language than anything.... interesting.

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I have heard it about black dogs and about dog's who don't have tails since dog's look more at body language than anything.... interesting.
Right Amanda ,and black dogs will use more lip licking as a calming signal. Yeah ,I think they should ban docking. I think it is illegal in Britain.

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Surgically altering in any way is not allowed in British show dogs. I wish they do that here too. I know a couple of local breeders that no longer dock tail and ears since you don't get invited to Westminster if you have an altered dog.

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