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Has your Hav ever suddenly stopped wanting to do tricks? Even with tasty treats? Kipper has developed this behavior in the past few weeks. He will either do a few, then he just kind of looks at me, then goes and lays down a few feet away. Usually we're in the kitchen when I ask him to do them, and he goes under the dining table. So weird!

We did change him over to Acana a few weeks ago. Is he too full? But he also started going to daycare once a week. Today is his 3rd time. Too many variables?
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Has your Hav ever suddenly stopped wanting to do tricks? Even with tasty treats? Kipper has developed this behavior in the past few weeks. He will either do a few, then he just kind of looks at me, then goes and lays down a few feet away. Usually we're in the kitchen when I ask him to do them, and he goes under the dining table. So weird!

We did change him over to Acana a few weeks ago. Is he too full? But he also started going to daycare once a week. Today is his 3rd time. Too many variables?
That would really concern me. Whenever you have a significant change in behavior, this first thing is a visit to the vet. He could have an injury, like a muscle strain or back pain that isn't obvious with a wound or limping, but keeps him from wanting to do some of the things you are asking him. Or he could have a tummy upset from the new food, or...?

If he checks out physicaly, I would be concerned that he might be being overwhelmed by the daycare situation. While it works for some Havanese, it can be too much for many of them.


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You know, some of those things have crossed my mind. And as soon as I typed that post, I realized it sounded rather serious. I made an appointment with the vet next week.

Can you elaborate a bit more on the daycare being overwhelming bit? I was not aware of that! While he's not at a typical daycare facility, it may still be messing with him. He goes to a couple's home; I found them on dogvacay.
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You know, some of those things have crossed my mind. And as soon as I typed that post, I realized it sounded rather serious. I made an appointment with the vet next week.

Can you elaborate a bit more on the daycare being overwhelming bit? I was not aware of that! While he's not at a typical daycare facility, it may still be messing with him. He goes to a couple's home; I found them on dogvacay.
An in-home situation with just a couple of other appropriate play mates is a MUCH better solution than a "typical" commercial daycare, where there are a large number of dogs. I would ask the care givers how he is doing, interacting with the other dogs there. Also, I would assume that you checked the place out, and that it is a clean and comfortable environment.


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Yes, we had a meet & greet at their house so they could make sure he was compatible with their dogs - they have a miniature poodle and a Pomeranian. They only take small dogs. Their home seems nice enough; they have a doggie door and a fenced backyard. Wes did say that Kipper is always going. He asked me yesterday if he was always like that at home, meaning going, going, going all the time. Which makes me wonder if Kipper doesn't know when to just take a rest when there are other dogs for him to play with.

To add to that, he is EXHAUSTED when he comes back. As in he goes in his crate and doesn't really move. I have to carry him out into the yard for him to pee. Is he tiring himself sick???
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Yes, we had a meet & greet at their house so they could make sure he was compatible with their dogs - they have a miniature poodle and a Pomeranian. They only take small dogs. Their home seems nice enough; they have a doggie door and a fenced backyard. Wes did say that Kipper is always going. He asked me yesterday if he was always like that at home, meaning going, going, going all the time. Which makes me wonder if Kipper doesn't know when to just take a rest when there are other dogs for him to play with.

To add to that, he is EXHAUSTED when he comes back. As in he goes in his crate and doesn't really move. I have to carry him out into the yard for him to pee. Is he tiring himself sick???
I don't think he can tire himself sick, if he is otherwise healthy. But he COULD be tiring himself out! If it's a good setting with a few small dogs and they are all getting along, I think he'll settle in eventually!


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Please don't panic. Sending your dog to doggie daycare is not a bad thing. Emmie goes to doggie daycare and I don't think I'm an awful Hav mama because that's the choice I've made for our family. Every dog is different and every option has pluses and minuses (e.g. leaving your dog home alone all day, having your dog with you all day, going to doggie daycare, having a dog walker come inside your home, cost, etc.). All of these choices take careful consideration and may have positive or negative consequences but if you do your research and understand your dog's personality then you'll make the right decision.

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Please don't panic. Sending your dog to doggie daycare is not a bad thing. Emmie goes to doggie daycare and I don't think I'm an awful Hav mama because that's the choice I've made for our family. Every dog is different and every option has pluses and minuses (e.g. leaving your dog home alone all day, having your dog with you all day, going to doggie daycare, having a dog walker come inside your home, cost, etc.). All of these choices take careful consideration and may have positive or negative consequences but if you do your research and understand your dog's personality then you'll make the right decision.
I agree with you completely, Jeanne. There are Havs that do just fine in the RIGHT daycare situation. It just pays to check the environment, staff and other dogs out carefully, and make sure it's a good fit for your particular dog. It was only this dog's sudden change in behavior (following shortly after starting daycare) that made me think it was worth looking into that aspect further too!


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Thank you all for your replies. It's hard to know what doing the "right" thing is because all dogs are different! If Kipper gets a clean bill from the vet I will give him more time to adjust to his daycare and if he doesn't go back to his normal self, I will either cut back to only half a day or perhaps ask that he be given mandatory naps!
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Thank you all for your replies. It's hard to know what doing the "right" thing is because all dogs are different! If Kipper gets a clean bill from the vet I will give him more time to adjust to his daycare and if he doesn't go back to his normal self, I will either cut back to only half a day or perhaps ask that he be given mandatory naps!
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with asking them to give him some "alone time" in his crate, especially if he likes his crate. He may be very happy with his new friends but still be unable to "settle" when he's so busy with them!


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