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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-01-2009, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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A Sunday in the Park, Pet Agree and safety

Sunday, we took the boys to the dog park. I really wanted to see what our park was like and wanted so bad to see the boys run free since we do not have a fence in yard. We entered the small dog side, I took their leashes off, and they stood there and looked at me. There were approx. 10 other dogs presently running around and playing nicely. The fence area is grassy and about two football fields long. It has a cement area with steel bowls and a water faucet. Plastic chairs are located under a huge tree that provides lots of shade and a few benches along the parameter. I walk forward and both boys followed me. Simba immediately starts interacting with the other dogs and Bailey stays close to my legs. I walked half of the field with both boys and some of the other dogs followed. Simba is playing and running with the other dogs but does not venture very far from me. Bailey is acting scared and will not go any further than 6-12 inches from my legs and this goes on for about 20 minutes until one of the dogs, who is playing with Simba, jumps on Simba in a playful manner. All of a sudden, Bailey’s appearance changes right before my eyes from this meek and mild Hav to a dog from Hell! He arched his back just like a cat and wham he attacks this poor dog like a vulture. He was snarling, jumping, and trying to bite him. He slams his body into the other dogs side to get him away from Simba. I yelled three times and grabbed him before he backed down. As soon as Bailey stopped acting like a jerk, Simba struts over to Bailey, in front of the other dog, and licks Bailey’s face. The other dog just ran off and played with the others. All is good again and I am thrilled to see the boys, including Bailey RLH with their ears blowing back and I swear they were smiling until…..same dog playing, but this time jumps on another dog and bam Bailey turns into this dog, I don’t know and goes after him again, I could not believe it. This time he stopped as soon as I called his name and the rest of the day he ran and played with the other dogs and was Bailey again! My little warden!!

I sat under the tree with DH and the other owners while the boys went and played. A very beautiful Shetland Sheepdog was there, but kept barking and barking and barking. The owner apologized for his barking but did not do anything to try to quiet him. She said “no matter what I do he keeps barking all day long” Hmmmm , I’m thinking, should I or should I not for I happened to have the Pet Agree in my camera case. I was even tempted to see if it work and zap the Shetland myself. So very, very tempting!! I asked her if she ever heard of the Pet Agree and she said no. I explained how it worked and she asked if she could try it. SURE be my guest!! She stood up, pointed it at her dog, said his name and pushed the button. It was amazing!!! The dog stopped barking, came, and stood by her side looking up at her. She was dumbstruck “he has never done this before”. I was speechless! I am sure she went home and order one for she kept repeating thank you!

Tonight was the first time I had the opportunity to use it with the boys. There was someone at the door and the boys turned into their usual maniacs barking and jumping on the door. I ran down the stairs (yes, I ran) and grabbed the Pet Agree and tried it. They not only stopped barking but also stopped jumping on the door. I did not hold the button in, I pushed it and immediately let go and gave the command “quiet”. After the third time they stopped everything and sat like two gentlemen looking out the door, while DH was on the porch talking to the person. OMG where was this for the past year???? They normally would have barked until the person was off the property and out of sight. If I didn’t see it with my own eyes I would never have believe it. Thank you Ann for telling us about this. I owe you big time!!!

Note: I do not think ultrasound will cause damage to the dogs ears. Remember ultrasound is used to visualize the fetus during pregnancy and has been used for at least 50 years as a medical diagnostic imaging tool, it can be used to visualize muscles, tendons, and many of the internal organs. We used it all the time in Intervention Radiology.
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Thanks for taking the time to write all this. I find it very interesting, and yet another reason to get the Pet Agree as soon as I can. It is very hard to believe that it could be this good a training aid, but, man is it worth trying!!

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I will have to check into "Pet Agree"....I have not heard of it. More research......



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Sheri, I know I would not have beleived it if I didn't see it myself. It was that quick. A year trying to teach them not to bark and jump on the door and within a minute with this and it was over and the man was still at the door. The boys are getting better and better when I walk them but still will terrorize people with their barking and jumping as they pass us. I am anxious to see if it will work then too. Hopefully, they won't become condition to the sound and be able to ignore it. Good luck to you!
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I will have to check into "Pet Agree"....I have not heard of it. More research......
Linda, check out Ann's thread entitled "helped with barking."

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I wish we had taken it with us yesterday. We went to a local walking trail, it's paved and by a river, where there are lots of other dogs. I'm a bit nervous to go there as many people let their big dogs off leash with the usual, "Don't worry, my dog doesn't bite.". I had my two sons with me though so I wasn't too concerned.

There was a lady there with a basset hound and a cocker spaniel and my guys started to bark, those dogs went nuts. Growling and pulling at their leashes, she really couldn't control them and was dragging them as hard as she could but it seemed to be all she could do to pull them away. I took my two around the front of my car so they couldn't see the dogs anymore and when we came back around she was gone.

We start off on the trail with my sister and her two little boys and encounter this lady again. She had to drag her dogs off the trail and into a grassy area, they were growling and barking like crazy! My dogs were barking and I would have used the Pet Agree then if I'd had it. I left the treats in the car so I didn't even have those to use as a distraction.

The question is though...why would anyone take dogs out that are that difficult to control??? I'd be terrified they'd hurt someone or something and I'd be helpless. She looked like she was about to cry.

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I wish we had taken it with us yesterday. We went to a local walking trail, it's paved and by a river, where there are lots of other dogs. I'm a bit nervous to go there as many people let their big dogs off leash with the usual, "Don't worry, my dog doesn't bite.". I had my two sons with me though so I wasn't too concerned.

There was a lady there with a basset hound and a cocker spaniel and my guys started to bark, those dogs went nuts. Growling and pulling at their leashes, she really couldn't control them and was dragging them as hard as she could but it seemed to be all she could do to pull them away. I took my two around the front of my car so they couldn't see the dogs anymore and when we came back around she was gone.

We start off on the trail with my sister and her two little boys and encounter this lady again. She had to drag her dogs off the trail and into a grassy area, they were growling and barking like crazy! My dogs were barking and I would have used the Pet Agree then if I'd had it. I left the treats in the car so I didn't even have those to use as a distraction.

The question is though...why would anyone take dogs out that are that difficult to control??? I'd be terrified they'd hurt someone or something and I'd be helpless. She looked like she was about to cry.

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Ann- I like the idea of having it with other dogs too. I think if you could use it before the problem escalated, it would be a great tool for protection on walks.

Mine is shipped now! I am hoping I have a revolution like the sheltie lady with Isabelle. Belle barks when she is happy, sad, playful, pissed, etc.... I want her to have a voice, just not as much of one!

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Ann, the behavior you explained is the same behavior the boys demonstrated when we would go on walks. I knew they needed to be socializing big time so we would keep going. I got many dirty looks but I wanted to be able to go on walks with the boys. It was a big dilemma for us. What we ended up doing was walking them separately and this helped big time for they were not so brave by themselves, esp. Bailey. That behavior is becoming less and less, and they are getting to the point, they walk right pass people with no reaction, but every once in awhile it comes back. I am going walking today and will post how it went.
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Mine only get crazy when they see another dog. It just escalated because the other two dogs were growling like crazy. Mine were barking with wagging tails at first and then their tails went down and Murphy was really scared. I'm going to bring it next time we go anywhere that I expect other dogs.

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