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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-07-2009, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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Well maybe more of a poll without the poll portion.

I am wondering what your defination of a backyard breeder is. We all know a puppymill when we see one so I thought perhaps this would some good information for those who are looking for new puppy and want a reputable breeder. I hope those of you who are breeders will chime in.

I would say a backyard breeder is someone who is into breeding for the money. One who doesn't do the health testing. Also someone who is breeding more than one or maybe two(but I am not even sure about two) different breeds or sizes(toy and standard etc).

So what is your defination of a "backyard" breeder?

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-07-2009, 10:54 PM
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Someone who has no concern for bettering the breed.
You can have those that test and even report the testing yet there are things not covered in the standard tests that they may be knowingly breeding. A few of those things are epilepsy, mitral valve, and high liver values

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I would say it could be a person who doesn't spay or neuter and mates his dog with any dog. Not testing for health concerns or if the dog has good conformation. My sister once said, "maybe I will breed my dog". I would consider that backyard breeding. I would also say a person with multiple dogs, doing it for money with no concern about bettering the breed, is a backyard breeder.

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Well, I may be over stretching and someone can fish smack me but a breeder who isn't breeding to better the breed. I think there are different degrees of backyard breeders so that is why it can be a slippery slope.

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I think a backyard breeder is in it for fun or money or both. They don't screen their buyers or do health testing or health guarantees for their pups.

In my opinion, back yard breeders do not have the knowledge to properly raise a healthy, socialized litter, or to help the new owner with any problems that might arise.

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post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-08-2009, 10:23 AM
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Our breeder that we used for Scooter would be in that category I guess. We didn't know what to look for although she told us about health testing. She didn't screen us in any way other than to ask me questions over the phone and when we visited she told us about the puppies and mentioned that some were more active or quiet but that was about it, she also gave me a PetEdge catalog with some items she said we'd need circled. When I went to pick him up all she gave me was a folder with his paperwork in it, the chip info, and a ziploc bag of the food she'd been feeding. Once we brought Scooter home we never heard from again even though I sent her some photos and asked a question or two.

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I guess Castro's breeder (if you can call her that) falls under the "backyard" category...

I got very fortunate with Castro - although his parentage and future health is foggy - I am happy to say that I couldn't be more happier with Castro... he has a great temperament, loves kids, dogs, people; doesn't mind the city noise, and is an absolute delight.

In my eyes (and his daddys) - Castro will always be BEST IN SHOW

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Jan & Angie - I agree with you both!

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I feel as though we got lucky too, I couldn't love my guys anymore than I do no matter what.

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Anyone who breeds just because they can without making an effort to breed better dogs than the ones they started with. They might also continue to buy bitches to breed with maybe only a regard for papers.

There are more of this category of breeder than any other-in horses as well as dogs. If they don't have a stud, they will breed to the closest one available.

Unfortunately, most buyers don't know any more about what they are buying than the people doing the breeding.
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