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How Darwin's raw diet arrives, freezer storage, etc. (photos)

There has been a recent thread on raw diets and my Darwin's shipment came today so I thought I'd share what it looks like and what the storage requirements are, etc. I have no affiliation and this is not an ad; it's offered for informational purposes.

When I initially signed up I was concerned if I had enough freezer space and would have found this useful. Darwin's ships from facilities on both the West and East Coast. Your packaging may vary depending on your location. This is the styrofoam package Rory's food arrives in.





Coffee mug included for scale. This is 10 weeks worth (20 lbs.) for my 7.5 lb. Havanese. This will actually last her more than that so every so often I have to call Darwin's and skip a shipment.



This is how much room it takes up in my freezer. During the original menu consult they told me the food would take up about the same amount of room as two one-gallon water jugs would, and that's accurate. (I have a frozen pizza and a frozen spaghetti dinner in my freezer . . . my dog eats a healthier diet than I do, apparently.)



She is fed 100% raw. Her baseline amount per meal is 1.8 ounces. You don't need a digital scale, and Rory may get more or less depending on her weight and activity level. Having a scale helps me reduce waste and feed her a consistent amount, which helps me adjust for treats, etc.



At this amount it costs 39 per meal, or 78 per day. As I said it takes Rory more than 10 weeks to go through 20 lbs. so this is what my freezer looks like today.



This is what works for my Hav. There are others much more learned here on Havanese nutrition.

This photo is not related, but I came across when doing this post :-)



Darwin's Natural Pet Products website. If you're interested they have a $14.95 trial offer with free shipping.

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This is a really good idea to post this. I use Darwin's, too. I live in NY and it always arrives frozen solid. I rotate it with canned and freeze dried and with your calculations, the Darwin's is cheaper than high quality canned. How much does Rory weigh that she eats that amount? Darwin's introductory offer is an awesome deal.

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This is 10 weeks worth (20 lbs.) for my 7.5 lb. Havanese.

At this amount it costs 39 per meal, or 78 per day. As I said it takes Rory more than 10 weeks to go through 20 lbs.
Arf, that answers my question from the other thread. I weigh 13 pounds and selected Darwin's most expensive free range option for costing information. Darwin says it will cost $2.50 a day to feed me - not complaining just clarifying. My Popi is considering going 50/50 with Honest Kitchen Preference and Darwin's.

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Cool ,,,, looks good on him and you mom.

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just a word of caution to anyone feeding true raw in the frozen state. This is from Primal .... It is important to only serve Primal raw foods when completely thawed. Frozen foods can be difficult for animals to digest. Never microwave any pet food. Microwaves cause the fat molecules to radically change, making fats less digestible, and ultimately they can become harmful to your pet's long-term health

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Rita, Rory weighs about 7-1/2 lbs. Dave makes an excellent point about microwaving pet food. Darwin's does provide a container, pictured below, in which to thaw their product.


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Great thread. I will look into the Darwins.

My holistic vet suggested that I take the food out of the refrigerator and let it sit for a bit also before feeding. She thinks it is better for them if a little warmer than straight out of the refrigerator.

I feed a combo of raw (I mix up brands, mostly Primal, Orange County Raw Dog and Stella and Chewys) and Honest Kitchen Preference. What works well for me is to get out the raw from the refrigerator and let it sit while the Honest Kitchen hydrates.

My dogs seem to do the best on the Honest Kitchen and raw combination. I used to feed raw only. I use more raw than Honest Kitchen.

I also add raw goat milk or kefir. I alternate between the two.
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Ricky, I'm answering your question from the other raw feeding thread so not to hijack that one.

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I'm confused! The Darwin website says to figure about $2.50 per day. How do you do it for $.85 per day?
Here is the calculation for Rory at 7 lbs.

Weight 7 lbs. = 112 ounces (7 x 16)

Daily recommended feeding is 3% of body weight or 3.36 ounces. (112 x .03)

3.36 ounces divided by two feedings = 1.68 ounces in the morning, 1.68 ounces in the evening.

Price per lb. of $3.50. Each Zoologics (human-grade meats and vegetables) kind ; beef, chicken, duck, turkey are priced differently, from $2.95-$4.10 lb., but they average $3.50 on my order.

$3.50 per lb. = 22 per ounce (3.50/16)

1.68 ounces per feeding = 37 each feeding, or 74 per day.

74 per day x 7 days = $5.18 per week

74 per day x 30.4 days per month = $22.50 per month.

Rory is now 7.5 lbs. so is fed slightly more.

If you are 13 lbs. based on feeding 3% of body weight your costs would look like this:

6.24 ounces per day / $1.37 per day

3.12 ounces per meal / 69 per meal

$9.59 per week / $41.65 per month

As an exercise I compared that cost to feeding Canidae Grain Free, a well-regarded dry food available at Petco and elsewhere.

The 24 lb. bag costs $59.99 and contains 384 ounces (or 48 cups) of kibble. The recommended amount for a 13 lb. dog is one 8-ounce cup.

$59.99 divided by 48 cups is $1.25 per cup.

Canidae kibble cost per day $1.25 / cost per meal 63

$8.75 per week / $38.00 per month

Difference for 13 lb. dog is about $3 per month.

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Does that breakdown include shipping costs? We used to feed Luna raw until we had children. We decided to switch to other foods until the kids are old enough to not go licking the dog's food bowl , but we did intend to switch back to raw eventually.

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