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Hi All!

I've been floating around these forums for a couple of days now. I don't have a Havanese yet, although I am thinking about getting a little guy for the Fall.

I have a little dilemma here. My sister bought a Havanese from a breeder. He's such a great little guy and such a velcro dog. He hasn't had one single problem with any syndromes, hearing, seeing etc.. and is extremely well mannered and very fun. Our first inclination was to go back to that breeder to find our new pup. While researching I found someone else on this forum talk about this breeder, and it's getting a little concerning. Apparently the they not part of the Canadian Havanese Fancier's group, nor the CKC due to them breeding a mixed breed. I would need to pay extra for papers. Meanwhile, there's another breeder in the same general area I'm in and they breed show dogs. They are quite a bit more expensive ( about $750 more), but I get a better feeling about them, other than the fact that they would have a co-ownership clause if the breeder thinks the pup has show dog potential.

Do I go with gut instinct or a pup that's a bit easier on the cheque book?

Both litters were born within the last week.

UGH!!!

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I understand your hesitation and concern. That said, I would strongly urge you to go with the best breeder you can find whether or not you pay more upfront for the puppy. Three reasons: (1) You're risking getting into a "pay now or pay later" situation -- it's possible that the breeder who doesn't belong to the various clubs/doesn't do all the things the more expensive does may have perfectly fine puppies, but do you want to take that chance and risk years of more vet bills, (2) going with the breeder who belongs to the clubs/participates/tests means you're supporting their efforts, which is a good thing for tfuture of this breed, and (3) most importantly, you're going to love whatever puppy you get; it's worth more $$ now to do everything you can to minimize the chances that you'll experience the heartache that comes with a puppy with health or behavioral problems. Think of it like this: what else will you pay that amount of $$ for that will enrich your life for (hopefully) the next 13-15 years?? Best of luck!
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Hey Mikey,

I know the breeder you are talking about (getting the boot from the CKC for breeding 'mutts'...err designer dogs..)

Not sure about them.. I've heard lots of bad stuff about them in the past couple years. There are quite a few very reputable breeders in Ontario though...

Where abouts do you live?

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Tabby~ everything you've talked about is very true. It's better to put more $$$ into him/her upfront than $$$$ later on. I like the fact that this other breeder already has the pictures of the puppies already online, along with their parents, along with lineage and certifications. Thank you!

Ryan~ I wasn't going to name names, because the purchase decision isn't going to be just my choice. The last thing I want to do is hurt this breed. But talking from my personal understanding, my sis' puppy is perfectly healthy, but he's still quite young.

I live in Barrie. The other breeders are in Lindsay.
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Hi and welcome, Mikey! Yaaaaaay, another Canadian fan of the Havanese.

I also think you should look at the health testing the breeder does and check the results out at www.offa.org If there are no issues, then it is well worth paying the extra money now, rather than later. It isn't a guarantee there will never be health problems with your dog, but it does help to know that his line is watched and results posted for you to see. That's a big plus!

Other things to look at is how well the pups are socialized, how often is the dam bred (best if it isn't too often), how you get along with the breeder (open communication is priceless!) and your gut feeling. Are you planning on showing this puppy one day? How will it work if your pup IS show quality? Will you have to release him/her for a while for the show circuit and/or breeding?

There are quite a number of Havanese breeders in Ontario and you can check them out via HFC (Havanese Fanciers of Canada) website. PM me if you have questions about some of them. I don't know them all well, but I do know a few.




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FYI, I'm not a breeder and don't show or anything. I'm "just" a pet owner.
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Always go with your gut feeling. Always. This little furbaby will be your companion for a long time to come, you want the healthiest, happiest little one you can find.

Blessings, Luna and the girls
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Do lots of research and visit the breeder! Welcome to the forum!



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You may want to check out Terri Bergan Sedosa Havanese. I got Bogart from her. She was excellent and definitely made me feel comfortable about my choice. She also gave me a word on another breeder where I got Brando from.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/tbergan/index.txt.htm

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Go with your gut, and get the best you can afford.

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