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Tell me what you think about these videos.

This is a video I took of Vinny herding? our son's dog when we stayed there last weekend. Notice how he keeps Hopey away from me and from Lulu and Gabby. Our trainer tells us Vinny is not dangerous , he just decides when another dog can enter his space. He said Vinny is a great communicator. Vinny can keep another dog out of his space just by laying there staring at the other dog. The next day Vinny did not do this, just the first day.
Everydog's tail was up and there was no disagreements, Vinny just controls where Hopey can go! The trainer says Vinny is an "old soul with a big pack sense". Interestingly, he said Vinny is not Alpha, Lulu is. He says Lulu is calm and self confident. When I asked him why Lulu didn't act this way he said the general doesn't go out on the battlefield! Very wierd to me.
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Wow, Carole, that is SO interesting! Vinnie is obviously not letting your son's dog near his pack! Fascinating! It looks more like protecting or guarding to me, not so much herding, but I don't know anything about that. What fun to watch!

Your trainer's theories are really interesting, too.

How is your son's dog? I actually feel a little sorry for him...big guy that can't go where he wants in his own back yard. Did your son mind?

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That was really interesting to watch. Vinny is such a handsome boy. He has a beautiful coat. Sorry . I know that at the small breed playgroup we go to there is one dog who has issues with guarding but she goes after the dog when they get to close to her owner. I didn't see Vinny getting aggressive.

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Looks like he was protecting his peeps! I think it's sweet.

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All I saw were adorable dogs, one in particular protecting her sibs ???

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Very cute! It does look like he is protecting and herding your sons dog away from his sisters... What a great brother. I did feel bad for Hopey... it was like he was different child at the playground... But they all seemed calm. Beautiful Vinny was just in charge.




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Chico acts just like Vinny when a guest dog visits, especially male dogs.
I was dogsitting a neighbor's Schnauzer for a few hours one time and he was was scared of Chico and just cowered in a corner.

the video was fun to watch.

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Sheri, my son and DDIL didn't get at all upset. They just thought it was dogs setting up their boundaries. I felt sorry for Hopey too until the next day when things improved.
I've just never seen this before. The trainer stresses that if a disagreement between dogs broke out that it would be the other dogs problem for not being able to read Vinny's clear communication. I guess it's pretty clear!, lol.
It was interesting when the trainer brought his dogs to my house. His dogs read Vinnys "dog speak" very well and recognized their boundaries. Vinny likes "space". The trainer says he is intilted to be respected for wanting his space. Most of us humans like our space too and other people are usually able to read that.
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That is fascinating to me! Did the trainer say what might happen if Vinny did this was a dog that might be more aggressive?
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Carole, I should add that Vinny is beautiful! I love his coat and color!

I've watched these a few times. So interesting and clear what he's doing.

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