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Potty indoors during storms?

How do we teach it?

We bell trained Zoey but when it was a blizzard outside and then again today when it was raining she pooped inside in a different room (not by the door). We do not scold her.

We still go outside with her as she is only 8 months old and likes to eat mulch and we also need to see if she goes #1 or #2.

Question is - how do we teach her to use the potty pad at this point? I don't mind taking her out in the snow but the rain and lightning is a different story. It's scary and dangerous for both of us.
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I don't let dogs out when it is storming and wait until a break. Neither of our dogs will go beyond the covered patio when it is raining. They have to be urged to go out and they want back inside very quickly. Neither of them like rain plus Nickie doesn't care much for his raincoat especially the hood. We don't have rain often and it throws both dogs off. My sheltie waits until he goes out, but Nickie sometimes has an oops when it is raining. I do wish I'd also trained him to an indoor potty.

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How to train the indoor potty

Hi, I live in the Pacific Northwest and we get our fair share of stormy weather as well, so I wanted an indoor option for my Hav.

Like others here I initially started with the potty training pad. And like many others here, my puppy made the pad a plaything to be shredded or dragged throughout the house. Based on poor results and training difficulties I feel that putting out the pad based on the weather outside was confusing to my dog.

I then decided to look at the other options which include dog litter boxes similar to cat litter boxes, but did not want to have to continually buy litter as it seemed kind of expensive to me.

I then looked at the three most popular indoor toilet options; the Piddle Place, the Ugodog, and the Rascal.

Researching numerous breed forums I found the Piddle Place consistently well reviewed and the people using it all reported good success with it. Users said it negated odor extremely well, provided the most natural experience, and was the easiest to empty and clean.

Training was relatively easy. I put a piece of her poop and a piece of paper towel with her urine on the Piddle Place surface, which is green like grass, but highly porous so that the pee drains through it.

When she explored the Piddle Place I praised her. When she actually used the Piddle Place I praised her and gave her a good number of small treats (in my case kibble). I believe it was Suzi that introduced me to the term "throw a party" when they potty appropriately.

Havanese are smart dogs and learn how to use the Piddle Place quickly. Rory is so clever that when I tell her "go potty" she gets on the Piddle Place and does 'number one' and then comes for her treat, then returns to the Piddle Place to do 'number two' after which she waits for a second treat!

Tonight I put Rory's Piddle Place training to the test. I was going to a movie with a friend who has two Havanese and she suggested that Rory could play with the two while we went to the movie (Woman in Gold with Helen Mirren and Ryan Reynolds). I took the Piddle Place to her house (I bought the cover) and set it up by her patio door. So she would know where it was I showed it to Rory and told her to go potty, which she did.

When we returned about three hours later I was very pleased (and relieved) to find that Rory had used it. Not only that, the other two Havs who had not seen it before both used it also. I think they were just covering what Rory had done but the fact remains they learned how to use the Piddle Place by themselves in under three hours.

There are lots of reasons to train the indoor option. Beyond staying out of extreme cold, extreme heat, snow, rain, and wind - I just believe it is the humane thing to do for your dog. It's my experience that it reduces stress for both dog and owner.

A good example of that for me is the fact that when I wake up every morning I can see that Rory has used it during the night while I slept. Rather than be uncomfortable and waiting until morning for me to take her out, she is able to get down off the bed, use the Piddle Place, and go back to sleep. And I have not had my sleep interrupted by her whining to go out.

The indoor option is ideal for people who live in buildings where a potty break means a trek down and back up flights of stairs several times a day. Allowing your dog a natural elimination process greatly decreases the likelihood of urinary tract, bladder, or kidney infection. It gives the elderly or infirm the opportunity to keep their companions longer. I'll use the Piddle Place on my boat this summer, and take it with me on my road trip down the Oregon Coast for the hotel and motel rooms.

I've put this video in other posts, but if you haven't seen it, here is Rory using hers.



Here's a gif made from the RoryCam in her expen.



For a Havanese owner the indoor toilet option seems like a no-brainer.

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Wow! Something to research for sure! Thank you so very much for your detailed response! This forum is simply the best.

We tell her the command to go potty but even at 8 months I don't know that she'd do it on demand in a confined area but we will look into this!
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We tell her the command to go potty but even at 8 months I don't know that she'd do it on demand in a confined area but we will look into this!
I thought potty on command was a pipe dream but kept trying and rewarding, and one day it just clicked for her. Actually a confined area is best as there are no distractions.

Good luck with whatever method you try.
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Can we borrow Rory? ... Loved her video!
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Can we borrow Rory? ... Loved her video!
I'm sure she would love to come and play with Zoe in NY!
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Rory is so adorable. And I agree that the indoor option is great. How old was Rory when you got her trained to the Piddle Place? Also, how do you keep it clean?

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Thank you Helene. Rory came to me at 7 months. She was kept by the breeder as a show prospect but sold when they determined that she was too small to be competitive in the show ring. She was housebroken in the sense that she used a doggy door at the breeder's home.

I could have trained her in 4-5 days to the Piddle Place, but I tried the disposable pads first which was a waste of time and money because puppies shred them and drag them around.

Keeping it clean is easy. Every Sunday afternoon I empty it into the toilet and hose off the surface turf pad with a hose. The solution you pour in the base keeps it smelling fresh which is a huge selling point with me.

Here's their video which shows how it's cleaned.



The customer service is pretty amazing too. When I first got it I had a question and emailed the company. The inventor emailed me back with her cell phone number!

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Wondering how we'd only use it for bad weather when the solution only lasts a week and I assume you can't really use it without the solution? Or could it is the filled with water for a one day use?
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