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Help with calories and weight control for adult dog

My vet told me the boys should lose a pound. I switched food and I am confused as to how much to feed. If I go by what the label suggests, the boys would be getting 520 calories of food a day! That does not include treats and chews! I feed half of what the label suggests, plus treats and chews. Fred may have lost a little, but Scuds got heavier! Their goal weight is 15 lbs. Fred is about 15 1/2 lbs and Scuds fluctuates between 16 1/2- 17! He is only 9.5 inches in height and not that long! I will give him one thing, he is BIG boned. He's is built like a lumberjack and has a very deep chest. I can feel their ribs, but not too well.
My question is, how many calories do you feed of their main food? Example: If you feed a 1/4 cup, twice a day, how many calories are in a cup of the food you feed? Please also provide the age, weight, and if your happy with their weight. Thanks!






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Linda- I just went through this with Dora who I didn't realize gained weight. This year she turned 4 years old and I don't know if it s middle age but I really thought she was more active than what she used to be with Dash and us having a big yard. I am happy to say Dora is back down to a svelte 11.8lbs as of Monday I kept feeding her the same amount of kibble- 1/2 cup. She will occasionally much on food throughout the day as I leave a bowl out as well. However, I tried to mix in more veggies which she loves on her plate so she would leave some kibble but she always dug through it for all the veggies and the dreaded walks. I posted Dora doesn't really enjoy the walks. When Belle and Dash are forging ahead, Dora is sitting trying to get me to carry her. We took her toy bunny a few times recently and that helps. It helps to take breaks too. It sounds silly but I really think the regular me and her just walking really helped. Well she hit her high weight at 12.5 this winter so that is a good amount of weight loss. If I could follow in her footsteps and just walk more

Oh, I feed Evo and I am not sure the carlories but I am pretty sure it is one of the high ones. Right now I am doing half evo and half orijen.

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Amanda,
Is that a 1/2 cup total all day? Evo is 537 cal per cup and Orijens is 450. I know that because that's what I used to feed
I think you're feeding 247 calories of dry a day, if it's 1/2c total per day.





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Linda, what I do to figure out calories is go to the natures variety site and do their feeding guide for raw. Plug in your boys desired weight and choose overwieght or sedenetary and it will give you the amount of medallions to feed which can easily be converted to calories as each medallion is 65 calories.

http://www.naturesvariety.com/feedguide

so for a non active 15 lb dog they say 4.1 medallions. which is @ 270 cals a day. which would be about a 1/2 cup of orijen a day.

Cash has lost a pound going off everything but raw and greenbeans..kibble, any kibble (origin, evo , wellness core), anything with any grains or potato made him starving, ravenous. He is doing very well on the medallions and so is jasper.




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Amanda,
Is that a 1/2 cup total all day? Evo is 537 cal per cup and Orijens is 450. I know that because that's what I used to feed
I think you're feeding 247 calories of dry a day, if it's 1/2c total per day.
Linda- yep, that is probably right. I do put on her food a little of my homemade canned food and she gets treats but we have been trying to give her some healthy treats. She loves baby carrots and those are a lot less than the chicken jerky. But I would guess 50-100 calories more with the canned and the treats and maybe minus a little kibble as Dash always eats some of her kibble. Dora is probably moderately active. Low active compared to Belle and Dasher but probably moderate to normal dogs. She plays toys a lot and RLH and wrestle with Dash quite a bit. I just think uptaking her exercise rather than removing the food really worked for her. How I knew it was working is a few times after our long hikes, she would wake my husband up and go out and eat some of the plain old kibble in the bowl cause she was burning a lot more calories than normal

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Thanks Missy and Amanda!
Amanda, that's really great that Dora has lost the weight. I hope my guys can follow in her footsteps!

Missy,
Thanks for the tip. I went on their site and the boys should be getting 270-290 calories a day. I think I'm feeding the right amount with 260 per day. I'll just cut back on treats and table scraps!





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Hi Linda, you may want to switch to a regular kibble that is lower in calories. If not, you can add cooked, pureed green beans for low-calorie bulk to their kibble.

My guys have also been on a diet since they gained a pound over the winter.

Their kibble is around 400 cals a cup.
Scout (age 2) gets about 2/3 cup per day. He is 15.6 pounds and needs to lose 1/2 pound.
Lincoln (age 4) gets about 1 cup per day. He is 18 pounds and can stand to lose 1/2 pound too, although he is okay where he is now.

I think the daily chewie was really making them fat - those have more calories in them than I realized. Now they get a chewie every other or every third day. I feel it helps clean their teeth, so that's why I was giving them one every day.

Good luck!

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We've had great luck with Life's Abundance Weight-Loss

http://www.preciouspets.org/healthyp...-loss-food.htm

If they could market this stuff for people they would become billionaires. It slimmed our matronly, older, retired and spayed girls right back to their young girlish figures. Their coats stayed great looking and they have plenty of energy-more energy than when they were a bit prosperous. You feed the same volume of kibble. We just watch them for a while and adjust as needed.

Unfortunately, I don't think you can buy it in stores.

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SIZE DOES MATTER... A bully stick (probably flossies too) is 29 calories an inch!!!!! so a 7 inch bully is 207 calories-- that's practically a meal for these guys-- this was the most important thing I learned when I was trying to figure out why Cash was gaining weight. we would often throw them each a bully to give us some quiet time and Cash would finish his and then take the rest of Jaspers and finish his too. So now they each get a half a bully, once a week in separate rooms. If you want more info-- check out the redbarn site they have calories on all their chews.




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Hi Linda, you may want to switch to a regular kibble that is lower in calories. If not, you can add cooked, pureed green beans for low-calorie bulk to their kibble.

My guys have also been on a diet since they gained a pound over the winter.

Their kibble is around 400 cals a cup.
Scout (age 2) gets about 1/3 cup per day. He is 15.6 pounds and needs to lose 1/2 pound.
Lincoln (age 4) gets about 1/2 cup per day. He is 18 pounds and can stand to lose 1/2 pound too, although he is okay where he is now.

I think the daily chewie was really making them fat - those have more calories in them than I realized. Now they get a chewie every other or every third day. I feel it helps clean their teeth, so that's why I was giving them one every day.

Good luck!

Wow, maybe I am feeding too may calories. I'm at 260 with treats and chews! I switched them to this crap Natural Balance roll, because it's all they would eat. I think I'll switch back to dry and if they refuse to eat, i guess that will speed up the weight loss

I guess they will eat when they are hungry and then I will try the beans!! Thanks!





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