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Lookout car seat 1 vs 2

I am shopping for a new car seat for Colbie.

I have the Solv-it harness for her which keeps her safe when she is in the car. I was using one of her beds as a cushion but with my leather seats it slides more then I'd like.

I want to get a Lookout car seat. On their website they only advertise the Lookout 2 and Luxury Lookout 2. Both have microsuede. I like the faux lambskin liner of the Lookout 1 which I guess is discontinued although still available on amazon.

Depending on which image you look at on Amazon the accompanying dimensions are different and I'm not sure if they are referencing interior or exterior dimensions.

Colbie is about 12 lbs and stretched out is about 18-20 inches from the tip of her nose to her tail.

Can someone who owns one give me an idea if she will be able to lay down in the medium lookout I without curling up?

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Someone posted this on FB. I think this is way safer than the lookout. If I didn't have 3 Hav's I would get this. It just won't work in my car the way it has to be installed. Check it out. There is a video of how it works in a car crash.
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I actually just emailed the company to see if I can get 3 in the backseat The lookout worries my because it puts my dogs up where flying glass or objects could possibly hit them in a crash.





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Thanks for your concern about the lookout car seats. The option you posted is interesting but won't work for mine as she needs to be able to see me to be content. Many times my front passenger seat it occupied. Overall I feel the rear seat is safer anyway.

I'm looking at the lookout as more a seat then a safety device anyway. I have a solv-it harness that has been crash tested and feel confident it is a safe choice.

As far as rear windows shattering and causing injury to a car's occupants (canine or human), I can tell you after covering hundreds if not more accidents in my career, I have never seen it happen. Car windows, which are made of tempered glass are designed, when they break, to stay in a single sheet and not shatter into shards the way a broken cup might.

Most bodily injury is caused by people not being properly restrained in a seatbelt or impact from the car's interiors like the fan of the car. At the speeds necessary for that kind of damage. A padded seat is not going to help much.

Which of the Lookouts do you have the I or II? What sizes do you have?

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Thanks for your concern about the lookout car seats. The option you posted is interesting but won't work for mine as she needs to be able to see me to be content. Many times my front passenger seat it occupied. Overall I feel the rear seat is safer anyway.

I'm looking at the lookout as more a seat then a safety device anyway. I have a solv-it harness that has been crash tested and feel confident it is a safe choice.

As far as rear windows shattering and causing injury to a car's occupants (canine or human), I can tell you after covering hundreds if not more accidents in my career, I have never seen it happen. Car windows, which are made of tempered glass are designed, when they break, to stay in a single sheet and not shatter into shards the way a broken cup might.

Most bodily injury is caused by people not being properly restrained in a seatbelt or impact from the car's interiors like the fan of the car. At the speeds necessary for that kind of damage. A padded seat is not going to help much.

Which of the Lookouts do you have the I or II? What sizes do you have?
Couple of things to clarify… Tempered glass ABSOLUTELY does not stay in a single sheet when broken. What it does do is fall apart into small rounded pieces that are much less likely to cut a person (or animal) than normal window glass does.

Second, I use the Solvit Harnesses too, and am also convinced of their safety. However, the weak link in many dog car seats is that all that keeps the dog in place is an inexpensively made tether. The metal clips are what are most likely to break upon impact. If you are buying one of these car seats, please make sure that the SOLVIT tether can be securely attached to the CAR SEATBELT. Otherwise I fear you may be negating the safety of the harness. Also keep in mind that Solvit says in its instructions that the more room you give the dog to move, the less safe the system is… using the Solvit tether is much less safe than attaching the harness directly to the carseat. Kodi rides with his Solvit harness attached directly to the seatbelt, and I've had absolutely no problem ever with his donut bed moving around.


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Couple of things to clarify… Tempered glass ABSOLUTELY does not stay in a single sheet when broken. What it does do is fall apart into small rounded pieces that are much less likely to cut a person (or animal) than normal window glass does.

Second, I use the Solvit Harnesses too, and am also convinced of their safety. However, the weak link in many dog car seats is that all that keeps the dog in place is an inexpensively made tether. The metal clips are what are most likely to break upon impact. If you are buying one of these car seats, please make sure that the SOLVIT tether can be securely attached to the CAR SEATBELT. Otherwise I fear you may be negating the safety of the harness. Also keep in mind that Solvit says in its instructions that the more room you give the dog to move, the less safe the system is… using the Solvit tether is much less safe than attaching the harness directly to the carseat. Kodi rides with his Solvit harness attached directly to the seatbelt, and I've had absolutely no problem ever with his donut bed moving around.
Point taken on the tempered glass Karen. It doesn't remain in a single sheet as I mistakenly stated. In any event the point I was trying to make was that lowering the dog's height on the seat won't necessarily make them safer in the car. The glass usually lands either on the floor of the seat after an accident.

I'm also fully aware of the methods of installing the Solvit and it's tether and the 5 ways from least safe to safest listed on its instructions.

I'm just trying to find out people's experience with sizing on the lookout. I wasn't looking for a discussion on which seat or safety device is best and why.

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Good points. I think the fact that we are questioning car restraints, we are ahead of our game
I also have the deluxe Solvet seatbelt. I have the normal standard lookout car seats. My guys are very comfortable in them and they fit fine. My 3 range from 6-16,5 pounds. I love them and I've had them for over 8-10 years.
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Aww they look adorable.

Is that the small size seats or the medium?

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Havanna is 12 lbs, and I have the medium-sized Lookout I for her. I think the only difference between the Lookout I and the Lookout II is that the II has a drawer in it. Anyway, I got the medium sized one because we travel long distances quite often, and I wanted to make sure the pups had plenty of room to stretch out (Olivia is 18 lb, and I have the large Lookout II for her). I've had these seats for 7-8 years now and have had no problem with them. Both my dogs like to look out the window, and this seat is high enough that they can do that. Also, I purchased fitted baby bed sheets that I put over the top for the girls to lay on. They're cooler than the lamb's wool, and the sheets are easier to take off and wash when they get dirty.

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I don't know the size but I think it holds up to 30 pounds if that helps.
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