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Solvet deluxe seatbelt users MUST READ

In researching car safety, I found out the crash test done for the solvet deluxe harness was rigged. If you watch the video, they attached the dog at it's waist. According to the article, the harness actually breaks apart in the test.

I just ordered 2 of the sleepypod cricket sports harnesses. The color I wanted is back ordered until late June. I like this harness because it can be used as a walking harness too. My only problem is I can't find a safe harness for 6.5 pound bella. Clickit and RC don't make anything small enough. I am so frustrated. I hope her solvet will work in a crash...

Here is the article:
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In researching car safety, I found out the crash test done for the solvet deluxe harness was rigged. If you watch the video, they attached the dog at it's waist. According to the article, the harness actually breaks apart in the test.

I just ordered 2 of the sleepypod cricket sports harnesses. The color I wanted is back ordered until late June. I like this harness because it can be used as a walking harness too. My only problem is I can't find a safe harness for 6.5 pound bella. Clickit and RC don't make anything small enough. I am so frustrated. I hope her solvet will work in a crash...

Here is the article:
http://www.centerforpetsafety.org/20...ss-rest-story/
The problem is that if a dog is thrown around the way it is in those crash tests, I really don't believe that even the Cricket is going to save it from (at least) severe neck injuries, if not death. Yes, it may prevent the dog from hitting a front seat passenger, but when you see the deformation of the dummy at the neck, especially knowing that a SINGLE SHAKE from a big dog can break a small dog's spine, I still put MOST of my faith on defensive driving. I DO believe that having the dog restrained in some way is definitely safer for both the dog and the passengers. But at the force used in these crash tests? I doubt ANY harness is going to help.

The safest transport option, IMO, is the Variocage. But they START at $850 plus shipping, AND are dependent on where the crumple zones are in your specific car. In many hatchbacks and SUV's (just the kind of car most often used with these crates) the hatch is part of the crumple zone to keep the passenger area safe.

Personally, much as I love them, I can't afford two $850+ crates for my dogs, and they wouldn't fit in my current car anyway.

Right now, Pixel rides in a varikennel crate, in the hatch and she will probably continue to do that. Kodi is used to riding next to me, (airbag disabled) and currently is in a Solvit harness. I'll probably upgrade to this Cricket, but I honestly am not at all sure that it would keep him safe in the kind of crash they show in the testing.


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Linda,

Have you looked into the Pupsaver? It is like a rear-facing infant carseat. Here is information form its Amazon page:

Crash-tested, safe and comfy transport for your small dog up to 30 lbs!: The PupSaver acts like a giant catcher's mitt, using your dog's weight and forward momentum to "catch" and hold your pup safely at that brutal moment of impact (or even against the force of a hard stop). Your car's seatbelt system will hold the PupSaver securely against the seat back while the soft, yet sturdy, material will cradle and protect your dog.
Comfortable and easy to use: Simple collar clasp, snap and go! Distraction prevention: Your dog has its own seat, so you can focus on the road. Endorsed by veterinarians. Can double as a pet bed when traveling.

Fits all vehicles and can be used front seat or back!: PupSaver attaches to the front seat or backseat seatbelt system in your car using a 5 Point Attachment System. This secures the PupSaver (and your dog) in place and locks the unit into the best position for impact, in case of an accident or short stop. Think of it like a rear-facing infant carseat, because that is the style of protection that was the inspriation for the design of the PupSaver.
Lightweight & easy to carry: The PupSaver weighs just 4 lbs and features convenient handles. Quick and easy to install

Stylish fabrics!: The PupSaver is available in several durable fabrics to match your style.
Made of polyurethane and cotton blend. Spot clean only.




The pupsaver website: http://pupsaver.com/



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I totally agree with you. Those test are done at like 40 mph.....We do the best we can do. I drive slower when the pups are in my car. I also TRY to avoid highway driving if there's another route. Take a look at Solvit website. If you decide to use it, they have a recall. The buckles are not as thick as they should be. Mine fall under that, so I will replace them. I will still you the Solvit with Bella since it's the only one small enough to fit her. They also have a 3 point attachment system you can buy for a safer ride....





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Hi Starr,
Yes, I actually just ordered one. I saw one yesterday at the playdate. The only thing that I don't like is the clip that hold the dog in is cheap plastic. I will use the Pupsaver along with Bella's Solvit harness. That should solve the problem My guys are in the car so much, I want to do what I can to keep them as safe as possible.





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Linda,

Have you looked into the Pupsaver? It is like a rear-facing infant carseat. Here is information form its Amazon page:

Crash-tested, safe and comfy transport for your small dog up to 30 lbs!: The PupSaver acts like a giant catcher's mitt, using your dog's weight and forward momentum to "catch" and hold your pup safely at that brutal moment of impact (or even against the force of a hard stop). Your car's seatbelt system will hold the PupSaver securely against the seat back while the soft, yet sturdy, material will cradle and protect your dog.
Comfortable and easy to use: Simple collar clasp, snap and go! Distraction prevention: Your dog has its own seat, so you can focus on the road. Endorsed by veterinarians. Can double as a pet bed when traveling.

Fits all vehicles and can be used front seat or back!: PupSaver attaches to the front seat or backseat seatbelt system in your car using a 5 Point Attachment System. This secures the PupSaver (and your dog) in place and locks the unit into the best position for impact, in case of an accident or short stop. Think of it like a rear-facing infant carseat, because that is the style of protection that was the inspriation for the design of the PupSaver.
Lightweight & easy to carry: The PupSaver weighs just 4 lbs and features convenient handles. Quick and easy to install

Stylish fabrics!: The PupSaver is available in several durable fabrics to match your style.
Made of polyurethane and cotton blend. Spot clean only.

Amazon.com : PupSaver Crash-Tested Car Safety Seat for Small Dogs (Leopard with Red Piping and Black Back) : Pet Supplies

The pupsaver website: http://pupsaver.com/





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Karen,
I totally agree with you. Those test are done at like 40 mph.....We do the best we can do. I drive slower when the pups are in my car. I also TRY to avoid highway driving if there's another route. Take a look at Solvit website. If you decide to use it, they have a recall. The buckles are not as thick as they should be. Mine fall under that, so I will replace them. I will still you the Solvit with Bella since it's the only one small enough to fit her. They also have a 3 point attachment system you can buy for a safer ride....
I already knew about the recall, and my harnesses are OK. I'm wondering whether the Solvit (or other harness) plus a Pupsaver seat might be the safest option. Then the dog will be pressed into the padding of the Pupsaver before reaching the full extent of the restraint system. I still CERTAINLY wouldn't use the Pupsaver with just a collar attachment as described. THAt seems to be tempting fate!


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Hi Starr,
Yes, I actually just ordered one. I saw one yesterday at the playdate. The only thing that I don't like is the clip that hold the dog in is cheap plastic. I will use the Pupsaver along with Bella's Solvit harness. That should solve the problem My guys are in the car so much, I want to do what I can to keep them as safe as possible.
Ha! Sounds like we had the same thought!


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Ha! Sounds like we had the same thought!
LOL. Yep. I think it is a great option. The only thing is if you put it in the backseat, the dogs can't see you. I think my boys might have a problem with that. Mine is suppose to arrive on Wed. I may try it in the backseat to see if the boys will put up with it. If so, I think that could be a safer option than the Clickit harness. They are on back order anyway.

I don't think the Pupsaver would work if you were broadsided but hopefully the Solvit will hold. Nothing is full proof!





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LOL. Yep. I think it is a great option. The only thing is if you put it in the backseat, the dogs can't see you. I think my boys might have a problem with that. Mine is suppose to arrive on Wed. I may try it in the backseat to see if the boys will put up with it. If so, I think that could be a safer option than the Clickit harness. They are on back order anyway.

I don't think the Pupsaver would work if you were broadsided but hopefully the Solvit will hold. Nothing is full proof!
Kodi rides in the front seat beside me anyway, so I don't think the Pupsaver would bother him. (It might bother ME by limiting my access to the car floor on that side! )

I have a Mini Cooper, with two doors, so getting dogs in and out of the back seat on a regular basis is just not a realistic option. That's why Pixel is riding in the back in a crate. (besides the fact that I don't want harnesses to damage her coat since I intend to show her)


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Archer rides in the backseat of my hatchback in his soft sided crate. I would love to travel with him up front with me as I am often driving alone but my breeder said she feels crates are the safest. Reason she said is if you get into a minro accident and you are unconscious, if your dog is loose or can get loose now you have a concussion PLUS you've lost your dog, whereas with a crate at least they are contained inside the car.

But how would one disable the airbag for the front seat? I sometimes have a passenger beside me, maybe 30% of the time... so I wouldn't want to forget and endanger my human passenger just for the convenience of seeing my dog while I'm driving.

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