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Is Hav Popularity Rising?

I met my first Hav just about a year ago. Before that, I had never heard of them, even though I am an avid watcher of the Westminster Dog Show. I knew a new dog was in my future so started researching the breed as I thought the one I met was absolutely adorable. I thought I would have trouble finding a breeder. However, there were probably almost a dozen within 100 or so miles of my home. I'm pretty sure these weren't puppy mills either. During our last camping trip, I ran into another Hav owner. Is this breed increasing in popularity?

Are you a long time Hav owner? Or are you also new to the breed with your first Hav?



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Yes, the breed has risen DRAMATICALLY in popularity in the last few years. When I got Kodi, 6 years ago, no one knew what a Havanese was. Now, almost everyone either knows what he is, or, if not, when I say he's a Havanese, they "know someone who has one." In 2008, they were still considered a "rare" breed… I believe they are now ranked about 25th in popularity. NOT a good thing for the breed.


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In 2008, they were still considered a "rare" breed… I believe they are now ranked about 25th in popularity. NOT a good thing for the breed.
Yes, if you check AKC, Havanese have broken into their top 25 list. This kind of popularity encourages "puppy mills" who try to cash in. Unfortunately, I know first hand, that there are some "legitimate" Havanese breeders who are letting their standards slide.

I met my first Havanese, a puppy, 11 years ago at a neighbor's house. It was love at first sight and we knew that was the breed for us but it just wasn't the right time for us. Things changed over time and we were ready for another dog and we "rescued" Ricky last November from a situation that wasn't good for him, and we and Ricky couldn't be happier.

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I first heard about the Havanese 20 years ago. I was looking for Bolognese for my father. I had just got my first computer and began searching on online. I found a breeder of Bolognese Dorothy Goodale in Colorado. I called not knowing she and her husband brought the first Havanese to the US which she never mentioned. She didn't have any Bolognese puppies at the time, but did have a few Havanese puppies that she said might be a better match. I wanted a Bolognese so she gave me the name of a breeder in Oregon. We flew to Portland to see the Bolognese puppy. It was shaved and didn't look anything like the fluffy little one I had seen. While we were there their daughter came in with a darling bouncy dog. Immediately I wanted that one. The owners said it was a Havanese that they were showing. We left and I knew now my father was getting a Havanese. I didn't contact Dorothy Goodale again although I wish I had now. Our first Havanese Sparky became our dog when my Dad passed away. He was just the best little dog ever so I had to have another and another...

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I first heard about the Havanese 20 years ago. I was looking for Bolognese for my father. I had just got my first computer and began searching on online. I found a breeder of Bolognese Dorothy Goodale in Colorado. I called not knowing she and her husband brought the first Havanese to the US which she never mentioned. She didn't have any Bolognese puppies at the time, but did have a few Havanese puppies that she said might be a better match. I wanted a Bolognese so she gave me the name of a breeder in Oregon. We flew to Portland to see the Bolognese puppy. It was shaved and didn't look anything like the fluffy little one I had seen. While we were there their daughter came in with a darling bouncy dog. Immediately I wanted that one. The owners said it was a Havanese that they were showing. We left and I knew now my father was getting a Havanese. I didn't contact Dorothy Goodale again although I wish I had now. Our first Havanese Sparky became our dog when my Dad passed away. He was just the best little dog ever so I had to have another and another...
Tom King could probably fill in the details more accurately than I, but I don't believe Dorothy Goodale "brought" any Havanese into the country. She collected a group of gods that she believed to be purebred Havanese from different sources and developed the breed from there.


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definitely, and this forum is a bellwether to this . The move from 10,000 to almost 13,000 members happened twice as fast as l,000 to 4,000 I bet.

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When we bought our first one, there were about 450 in this country. The last time I looked at numbers, which was several years ago, there were about 450 litters registered with AKC every month.

I think they have been bred about as fast as possible, and the demand for more just continues to go up.
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She collected a group of gods that she believed to be purebred Havanese from different sources and developed the breed from there.
Typo, or Freudian slip? Fascinating to learn how fast the breed has grown in popularity. Even over the past 3 years since I've gotten Benjamin, I seem to encounter far fewer people who say they've never heard of them.


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Typo, or Freudian slip? Fascinating to learn how fast the breed has grown in popularity. Even over the past 3 years since I've gotten Benjamin, I seem to encounter far fewer people who say they've never heard of them.
Yeah, I love them to pieces, but I don't think they're gods!


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Wow, I had no idea how dramatically the popularity has risen. Seeing one, I can understand why someone would want one. I agree it is not good for the breed and that it encourages puppy mills.

Years ago, I wanted a Coton de Tulear, but didn't feel I could afford the price at the time. I ended up with my corgi, Foxy. I think, in looking back, that Foxy's breeder would be called a backyard breeder and knowing what I know now about breeders, I probably wouldn't have gotten her from a breeder like that. However, I'm glad I did as she was my solemate and my heart dog. Willow is certainly taking a big place in my heart and making the loss of Foxy hurt less.

Thank you all for your posts on this topic. It's very interesting. I just hope the breed stays pure and healthy with responsible breeders. Foxy died from degenerative myelopathy which is now completely preventable with responsible breeding. They can test the DNA to see if they carry the gene and if so, they don't need to breed that dog or just breed it to one that is clear and make sure the puppies are not to be bred. However, a lot of breeders are out to just make a buck and don't bother with the genetic testing. I can't even tell you how angry that makes me.



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