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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 07-27-2009, 02:54 PM Thread Starter
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My 20yo DGD came to help me in the house today. When she was trying to walk into the kitchen, Jesse barked and bit her. While the skin was not broken, it was definitely a bite with very visible teeth marks. Jesse has been our "hand full" child since he would charge and bark when we got him. We have worked with him pretty hard and he did beautifully when I had five younger grands here recently but we really worked to help him and them. I have been gone for several days and they were with just DH; he had several peeing and pooping accidents with them while I was gone but no charging.

A ten year old walks him and she does fine with him but he didn't get a walk today, or really since late last week.

Once he bit Amanda I immediately leashed him and tethered him to me the rest of the time she was here. He did bark seriously at one point and I immediately made him stop.

This really concerns me and I am wondering if any of you have any suggestions to help me help him. I cannot have him "snacking" on the guests!

Of course, the entire thing scared Amanda so she wants nothing to do with him and that closes the door to helping them get along. Very upsetting to all of us.
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Hmmm, maybe I put this in the wrong place; I'll copy and paste it to rescue.
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Your post showed up just fine...don't worry about that. Sometimes posts get cycled off the first page before everyone gets to read it, and just bumping it up can help.

I read your post when it first showed up...but have no advice. Hopefully some of the experienced folks will chime in. I think you can also contact HRI and HALO and ask them for expert advice in this area of rescue.

I have read how much you adore these two boys you rescued, and hope there is a solution to be found.

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I don't have any ideas either! Maybe he felt threatened? Or he was scared? Could you have them meet on neutral territory, like out in the street, and she could give him treats as you walk back towards the house? Perhaps he would associate her with good things then. And once inside she could ignore him. I know I saw an episode of It's Me Or the Dog where the dog wouldn't let anyone come near him or the girl who owned him. The girl's mother couldn't even walk into the bedroom or the dog would go nuts! They got him to stop but I can't remember the entire show. I would guess you could find it online.

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I would advise getting an obedience expert with experience dealing with biting issues involved as soon as possible.

My parents have 4 rescue dogs, all of whom had been mistreated. One of the dogs, a terrier mix, occasionally growled and nipped at visitors. My parents who are very experienced dog owners tried to deal with the behavior. One day their neighbor, who comes over almost daily, bent down to pick up a piece of ice that had dropped. The terrier viciously attacked his face and he ended up with almost a hundred stitches. Four years later, his scars still look awful. Fortunately, he was a good friend and did not sue my parents. I shudder to think that it could have been one of my children or another child that was attacked. I lobbied my parents to put the dog down, but they didn't. They did get a behavior expert involved and spent a lot time crating the dog and doing various other behavior modification techniques. She did seem to respond well to the training. My parents are very cautious now and put her up now whenever they have guests in the house.

I guess my advice is to get some help to deal with this before it escalates into something more severe. Good luck!

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Are you on the HRI list?

Write to the list...I'm sure they will have lots of good experience for you.
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Thanks for the responses; I am going to consult the list (which I assume is through the rescue site?). I pretty much know what happened to cause the incident and I think I have figured out some ways to help him. He was sleeping in his bed in the kitchen and
Amanda came through the doorway in a hurry and she was kind of waving her hands in the air; not really paying attention to him; he barked and then bit. I think her hands in the air scared him, he panics when anything is waved above him so I am thinking he was struck by a leash or hand or object while he was in the puppy mill.

He is very submissive on a leash so I have decided to leash him whenever someone is here and keep him close to me so I can intervene. If I can't keep him close by then I'll confine him with the leash on (he is much less anxious with the leash on). We don't have people over a lot so every visit from someone is almost brand new to him. He is very used to the dog walker but she is here five days a week. He also got used to the grands because they were here for quite awhile.

He is so mild mannered around us that it is easy to forget how anxious he can get with other people. He probably needs a lot more socialization but that is not particularly easy for me; my two grands that live near me either work or go away to college so they can't just pop by. We are new in the neighborhood so I don't feel I can ask my neighbors to pop in to help with my dogs!

I think, with consistent work, this will pass. He has been very calm and easy since that incident and even was good with Amanda when she visited a day or so later.

Anyway, thanks for commenting, I very much appreciate it.
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