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peeing in the house at 9 years old

My older hav, Parker, has been peeing in the house lately. He chooses the rugs in rooms that he doesn't frequent, but also in my master bathroom on the stone floor, and aways in the same places. I know that no matter how well I clean the area, they can still smell it . I am beginning to think it is spitefully done when no one is home and not because he needs to urinate since he goes out frequently. It is making me crazy. I need a suggestion of a behavioral approach to this. I do try to limit access, but sometimes we are not as vigilant and the opportunity sneaks through. I saw Brandon McMillan on his "Lucky Dog" show put a dog on a short leash near the area where the dog urinated in order to get the dog to experience that area as a familiar area so the dog wouldn't urinate there.
Any behaviorists out there to weigh in on this?
I need help.Thanks.
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I would take Parker to the vet to make sure there isn't a medical problem. I also found when my previous dog got older she just couldn't hold it so I put down a pee pad in the spot she had chosen (also the bathroom) and she used that. I don't believe dogs can be spiteful, they are not capable of that type of complicated thinking.

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Rita, thank you for your reply! I will double check with the vet, but he had a check up recently. I agree with you about being spiteful, that was my frustration emerging!
I do think there is a behavioral element here, and that there is a behavioral approach, I just don't know what it is !
I am not ready to go the pee pad approach yet since Parker is capable of holding his urine for long periods of time. So frustrating! It makes me want to get rid of all of my rugs because i know they still smell the urine even if I don't. Anyone have a good product for cleanup and to get rid of the urine smell ?

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I would make an appt. with the vet. Maybe he has a UTI.

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dogs are not capable of being spiteful. A closer vet exam is first and foremost.

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Thank you everyone. I have been home more since I am off for the summer and there have not been any accidents for several days. I have secured and limited the access to all the preferred " peeing" areas.
And they and I am enjoying more time together!
Just to reiterate,and put everyone at ease, the spiteful comment was pure frustration on my part that my rugs were getting destroyed . As I said, it's a good thing they are all from Home Goods and not antiques!
And I have vet appointments for both of my Havs to check on the uti possibility. There is also the possibility that it isn't Parker and it is Jackson since I have never caught them in the act!
I would still like to find a behaviorist to weigh in on a behavioral approach to dogs who are intermittently peeing in the house and have been cleared of having any medical issue.
Thank you everyone!!!!!
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Thank you everyone. I have been home more since I am off for the summer and there have not been any accidents for several days. I have secured and limited the access to all the preferred " peeing" areas.
And they and I am enjoying more time together!
Just to reiterate,and put everyone at ease, the spiteful comment was pure frustration on my part that my rugs were getting destroyed . As I said, it's a good thing they are all from Home Goods and not antiques!
And I have vet appointments for both of my Havs to check on the uti possibility. There is also the possibility that it isn't Parker and it is Jackson since I have never caught them in the act!
I would still like to find a behaviorist to weigh in on a behavioral approach to dogs who are intermittently peeing in the house and have been cleared of having any medical issue.
Thank you everyone!!!!!
I am not a "behaviorist" but I have many years of experience as an animal trainer and now a number of years training dogs specifically. I CAN tell you that I would never tie a dog up in an area thinking that this would somehow teach them not to potty in that area. It just makes no sense. It could create anxiety, it could MAKE the dog have to potty there, but it is extremely unlikely to convince the dog that this is a "good" place where s/he shouldn't potty.

As part of an over-all approach to potty training (which included restricting access to problem areas, removal of rugs in problem areas and CLOSE, EYES-ON supervision when the dog is in a problem area) I make sure that I spend time playing with the dog in the problem area, and scatter kibble on the floor for them to hunt and find. Being there WITH you, and having it be an enjoyable "family space" makes it much more likely that the dog will understand that this is not an appropriate potty spot.

The only times I've heard of tether ing being an appropriate and effective potty training tool is when the dog is tethered to a PERSON. What this really accomplishes is that it keeps the PERSON more aware of where the dog is and what he's doing, and therefore more engaged in the potty training process. IMO, tethering is much more helpful to the human than it is to the dog.


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