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Baci seems to have a strong herding instinct, very much like my past corgis. Is this a Havanese trait? Or is it just my dog?
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what exactly is he doing?

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Mostly it's when we're in my backyard, which is about 2 acres of wide, open space. In typical Corgi herding fashion he gets to one side or another, or behind or in front of me, but very close and barks while making small darting movements in the direction he wants me to go.

I am alpha, and I do not allow him to influence my direction. As I said, I've delt with this before with my two corgis, and Baci is doing exactly the same herding movements they did (corgis were bred as cattle herders.) It's just that I hadn't realized Havanese had a herding streak in them too. Or is ot just Baci?
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Mostly it's when we're in my backyard, which is about 2 acres of wide, open space. In typical Corgi herding fashion he gets to one side or another, or behind or in front of me, but very close and barks while making small darting movements in the direction he wants me to go.

I am alpha, and I do not allow him to influence my direction. As I said, I've delt with this before with my two corgis, and Baci is doing exactly the same herding movements they did (corgis were bred as cattle herders.) It's just that I hadn't realized Havanese had a herding streak in them too. Or is ot just Baci?
Kodi herds instinctively too. He used to regularly round up our neighbor's chickens and send them back into their pen, with no direction from me or training. It was pretty amazing to watch. There are a couple of people I know who actually herd with their Havanese… mostly ducks, but one does sheep too. I'd love to try it at some point… except for dealing with the coat in a sheep pen!


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any dog can learn to heard and not all herding breeds exhibit it . It is predatory in nature, and here is a good article from my archives on Havanese. I think it's mostly folklore in nature. http://www.havaneseabc.com/herding.html

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Kodi herds instinctively too. He used to regularly round up our neighbor's chickens and send them back into their pen, with no direction from me or training. It was pretty amazing to watch. There are a couple of people I know who actually herd with their Havanese… mostly ducks, but one does sheep too. I'd love to try it at some point… except for dealing with the coat in a sheep pen!
That's good to know. Has a Pixel exhibited any herding traits?
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My hav herds us from time to time, especially when he thinks it is time for dinner. For example walking from the living room to the family room across the house. Sometimes he will sneak behind us when we're walking him outside and try to herd. He likes to herd our other dog. He doesnt bark, its is just a slight bump with his nose.
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That's good to know. Has a Pixel exhibited any herding traits?
No, but she's also never been exposed to any stock at this point. The neighbors only have one chicken left (no, Kodi didn't do them in! ) and she stays close to home.

Neither one of mine has ever exhibited any of the "human herding" behaviors you often see in the really intense herding breed puppies like BC's and Corgis.

If she DOES show any herding tendencies as she matures, I would expect more drive and intensity from her than Kodi… he's a much softer dog.


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Twinkle does the slight bump with the nose too! I didn't realise it was a herding sign...
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Kodi's Mom, Razzle, is a natural born herder.
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