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So my sweet baby girl Mattie is 4 months and 3 weeks old. I've got her to learn stay pretty well. She is rebelling against her leash though. I've let her get used to walking around with her harness on then the leash on dragging it around. When I try to pick it up and lead her though she just sits and refuses to walk. I've tried leading her with treats but she refuses when I don't give them to her. Any tips? Also, I'm trying to get her to use her puppy steps so she doesn't jump off the bed but she just won't, even with treats. I'm not sure if this will get better as she gets bigger or if there is something else I should try?
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What did it for my pup when she was younger was going on a "pack walk" with another older dog. She just naturally followed and associated it with great fun. This was basically just up and down my driveway but she seemed to "get it" from then on. As far as steps, I've always just carried mine on and off the bed, but I placed one of my sofa cushions on the floor in front of a sofa with the legs removed, and she uses it to hop onto the sofa. I didn't have to show her. Maybe you can transition to the steps from that. I put throws and sheets on both the sofa and the cushion to keep them from getting too dirty.
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So my sweet baby girl Mattie is 4 months and 3 weeks old. I've got her to learn stay pretty well. She is rebelling against her leash though. I've let her get used to walking around with her harness on then the leash on dragging it around. When I try to pick it up and lead her though she just sits and refuses to walk. I've tried leading her with treats but she refuses when I don't give them to her. Any tips? Also, I'm trying to get her to use her puppy steps so she doesn't jump off the bed but she just won't, even with treats. I'm not sure if this will get better as she gets bigger or if there is something else I should try?
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If she will follow you for food (make sure you GIVE it to her, don't just tease with it!) you are actually in good shape,. You just need to use much MORE food. Loose leash walking is a learned behavior. Puppies, as you've found, don't come knowing how to do it. Here's a god video of one excellent way to get started:

https://youtu.be/kfiNFtembDA

YOU have to control her getting off the bed. If you can't keep her from jumping off, don't let her get on. When she's an adult (approaching a year) it won't make much difference if she wants to jump on and off… Havanese are jumpers! We tried steps for my adult Hav at one point, because we got a higher bed, and thought it would be easier for him… all he learned was to jump OVER the steps… in both directions!!! Now the steps are in another room, where our elderly cat actually appreciates them.


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What did it for my pup when she was younger was going on a "pack walk" with another older dog. She just naturally followed and associated it with great fun. This was basically just up and down my driveway but she seemed to "get it" from then on. As far as steps, I've always just carried mine on and off the bed, but I placed one of my sofa cushions on the floor in front of a sofa with the legs removed, and she uses it to hop onto the sofa. I didn't have to show her. Maybe you can transition to the steps from that. I put throws and sheets on both the sofa and the cushion to keep them from getting too dirty.
Yes, walking with an older, well-trained walker is a WONDERFUL way to start… if you have such a dog available. If the older dog has poor leash habits, however, he will pass those along instead, so choose carefully.


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So my sweet baby girl Mattie is 4 months and 3 weeks old. I've got her to learn stay pretty well. She is rebelling against her leash though. I've let her get used to walking around with her harness on then the leash on dragging it around. When I try to pick it up and lead her though she just sits and refuses to walk. I've tried leading her with treats but she refuses when I don't give them to her. Any tips?
There are peoples on HF who have much more experience in training than Popi y mi, so you should listen to them, but here is mi two centavos worth:

Put the leash on and let amiga Mattie sit if she wants. Hold a HIGH VALUE treat (like a piece of boiled chicken breast the size of a pea) in front of her nose while YOU hold on to the leash. Let her smell it and gradually pull it away from her around 12 inches. Do this first thing in the morning before she has had anything to eat and she is good and hungry. If she stands and takes one or two steps to get the treat......praise her extravagantly and give her the treat. Gradually increase the distance until she is walking several steps. I tink this will work until she gets used to you walking her on the leash. It just takes time......and patience.

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Also, I'm trying to get her to use her puppy steps so she doesn't jump off the bed but she just won't, even with treats. I'm not sure if this will get better as she gets bigger or if there is something else I should try?
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Shut the door to the bedroom, really. Start by putting the steps in front of a narrow chair with high arms on it. Put a HIGH VALUE treat on the seat of the chair. Leave mi amiga Mattie only one option to get that treat and that is by going up those stairs. Repeat this exercise three times in succession, five times a day. Do this exercise before she eats any of her 2 or 3 meals a day, so she is hungry.

Give it a try and then report back. Buena suerte (good luck)

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Thats was a good video Karen! Thanks for sharing!


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Thats was a good video Karen! Thanks for sharing!
So many people try to drag their puppies along. (and are totally shocked when it doesn't work!!!) They WANT to come toward you, so this is a great way to start them off! People are also WAY too afraid to use (lots of) food when training. They lure and tease with it, but don't actually PAY the dog. Yes, you can and absolutely SHOULD fade rewards as the dog really learns a behavior, but it takes a LONG time for a behavior to really be internalized, especially when you "take the show on the road" and start asking for the behaviors in novel settings. ("He walks great in our yard, why won't he do it out on the street?!?!") Dogs are VERY poor at generalizing and need more reinforcement in novel settings. The more novel settings where you train to competency, the less they will need EXTRA rewards in NEW settings.


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They WANT to come toward you, so this is a great way to start them off!
Right! I was doing the walking along side, but Blossom was still all over the place and I wasn't using the clicker. When I started backing up it made sense to her and she started naturally walking into a stack like she'll have to do in the ring, so yay! Then when I switched to along side she was much better. I forget how quickly and how eager they are to learn at this age.

btw~I hope Kodi is mending well.


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btw~I hope Kodi is mending well.
Thanks! He LOOKS OK just moving around casually at this point. He had a NUTTY this morning when some friends came over to practice, and he was the only dog who didn't get to play, poor boy!


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