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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-07-2015, 11:35 PM Thread Starter
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Was our friend's late dog a Havaneese (see pictures)?

A dear friend and former neighbor just had to put down their beloved dog of 17 years (she was 18 and a dog pound rescue).

Her name was Cookie and she was just a doll. We all loved her very much and will miss her (she is the reason we decided to get a dog, I was a cat person until I met her). She was the smartest, sweetest, most well behaved dog I've ever seen.

She was loved very much, spoiled in a good way and had a wonderful life full of love, treats and travel (she was allowed in places that most dogs weren't and she always behaved perfectly). She was very healthy up until about 3 months ago, aside from loosing most of her sight about a year ago.

We had the privilege of being the last place she visited on the night before she had to be put down. We had a lovely visit with her and her dear parents, but it was sad to see her so sick, she managed a happy shake for us though and lots of love.

She was dying from age, wasting from liver failure and had stopped eating a week ago-the vet told them it was time whenever they were ready but to do it before she got too sick (they took her the day she started vomiting).

Her parents are dearly missing her. No one can replace her, but her temperament and personality was something they wanted in their (maybe) future dog (it's kind of soon for them, but they are thinking about it).

Here are some pictures I've taken of her over the years. I'm not great with guessing sizes. She was larger than a toy poodle. About 12-15 lbs.

Do you guys think she was a Havaneese or a mix? If so, could you please elaborate.

I can't do much to help ease the pain of my dear (best) friends, but getting them an answer would cheer them a bit. (He actually considered doing DNA testing on her, because he wanted to know.)

Can you all help grieving puppy parents by giving them an idea if their beloved late baby was a Havaneese or not-mix, pure,?

Any and all thoughts are appreciated!
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-07-2015, 11:48 PM Thread Starter
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Also, if you think she was mixed-could you please take a guess at the mix?

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adorable..so sorry for your friends loss

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I am not an expert, but since no one is making a guess I will pipe in.

DNA testing is not accurate for many breeds so it is just as well that your friend didn't bother with that.

The almond shaped eyes are the biggest Tell for Havanese, along with the body being longer than tall, and the tail end being slightly higher than the front of the dog.

That being said, from the picture of the face of this girl she does look Havanese from what I can see of her eyes. The body isn't clear enough, but I would think she could at least be part Havanese. She was a very pretty girl.

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I am probably the least experienced to give an opinion, but the last picture reminds of a schnauzer. Maybe a mix? Maybe it's just the coloring that makes me thing schnauzer.

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There are people on this forum that are far more qualified than myself, but that first picture showing that face makes me think Havanese for sure. I wish we could see a picture of her standing showing her profile to see her body more. Hard to tell from the other pictures. Did she carry her tail up and did it curl over her back. Were her legs short or long. Was she a little taller at the rump than the shoulder. Her body looks more long than square in proportion to legs, is that right? These answers make a difference. Experts on this forum will chime in and help.

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Jackie, the one picture makes her look schnauzer-ish because of the grooming cut they did on her is what they do for schnauzers.

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Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that you never know with a rescue. There are SO many small, long haired dogs in rescue, and it has become very trendy to call every one that does not have a short nose a Havanese or "Havanese cross".

From what you've said about her temperamentally,your friends could certainly find a Havanese with a similar disposition, though if they are looking for that type of temperament, rescue is not the surest bet. While there are many nice dogs in rescue, most are puppy mill type dogs or they wouldn't BE in rescue. Good breeders ALWAYS take back the dogs they've bred if the new owner can't keep them for some reason. To have a surer bet of getting that wonderful, sunny Havanese disposition, your friends should really consider working with a reputable breeder.

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Thank you all for your kindness and good wishes!

I checked and I don't have any pictures of her standing up. I'm sorry! I'll try to see if I can get some from them.

I would say her tail was quite long and would go over her head. She tended to carry her tail high and curled a bit.

I'll have to get the other pictures to see about her other features as asked.

Thanks for the info on the inaccuracy of DNA testing I'll let them know, so they don't worry that they didn't do it.

When I look at the pictures of your dogs in the avatars-her body was long and her legs short.

I think she looks like a schnauzer because they asked for that cut.

She had a habit of loving to hop like a bunny when excited or literally when chasing bunnies (which she never caught.)

She would also give hugs when asked (but only to her "Daddy"). She would also say (pretty clearly) "I love you" on command. (She loved her "Mom" but was a "Daddy's Girl"...We have toy poodles and this is how it seems to go the boys love me more the girls love Dad more.)
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I am sorry to hear about the loss of your friends dog.

I do think this dog was a havanese. If it was a pure bred, it can only be a havanese. There are many poodle mixes that look like havanese but this she looked like a havanese for sure.

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