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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 08-20-2009, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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I was wondering if anyone here ever had a DNA test done on their Hav. I guess since most of you bought from breeders, it isn't necessary. We had a DNA test run on Sami. The results are very unexpected. Here is the story... I posted before how we got Sami from a rescue place and didn't know what kind of dog she was (we had never heard of Havanese). Our groomer told us she was Hav and when we looked it up, sure enough, she is like a typical Havanese. We also took her to a dog show that was in the area and some of the Hav breeders looked at her. All of them said she was Hav except for one guy who thought she was a second generation Hav (this was based solely on the fact that she is taller than standard, 13" at shoulders, although he didn't measure her. In fact, they also mentioned what a nice coat she had and what kind of conditioner did we use!) So he mentioned DNA testing which we looked into. The regular swab type tests don't have Havanese in their database. We would have had to do a blood test which was over $100. We decided that was too much and she was Havanese to us!

Well, a friend of ours (the one with the standard poodles in my pictures) sells pet supplies and gave us one of the swab type tests. We decided to send it in and figured it wouldn't come back with any matches (or maybe something closely related to Havanese, like Maltese or Bichon). I got the results back today. I can't even believe what it says. There is no level 1 result (which would be over 75% of the dog's DNA from this breed). and there is a note that says most mixed breed dogs will not show any breeds under level one unless the dog has a purebred parent. ) This was also expected since Havanese is not in their database.

Level 2: each breed represents 37-74% of your dog's DNA. Sami's came back Chihuahua!

She didn't have anything in levels 2 or 3 which are 20-36% and 10-19% respectively.

Then there is level 5: less than 10% of your dog's DNA. Sami had 4 breeds listed: Bassett Hound, Maltese, Papillon and Scottish Terrier.

These results make no sense! She doesn't have traits of any of these (and I have owned a Chihuahua mix before).

I was just curious if anyone else had done these tests and if the results were what you expected.

Sami...the Chihuahua/Bassett Hound mix!
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My goodness, Sami is just the cutest bassett/chi I've EVER seen!

Ha, ha! I'd say I don't think I'd be temped to do one of the swab DNA tests after seeing your results...!

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I think she is a Havanese!

What if it came back Rotteweiler! LOL

I didn't just get havanese, I got a lifestyle!
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that is just plain weird!!!

Well I hope you liked your chi because now you have one with a basset hound...
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I think I would be so curious by now that I would splurge and get the $100 blood test!!

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I've never heard anything good about those tests. There aren't enough dogs that can be recognized in the database to get accurate results and if you can't get accurate results, what's the point? I wouldn't advise wasting your money. Sami looks like a Havanese to me.
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Chihuahua?????

What a beautiful chihuahua Sami is!

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And, maybe there's a chihuahua out there who's now being told it's Havanese
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You guys are too funny! Not only does Sami look like a Havanese, she acts like a Havanese (from everything I've read about them...RLH, sitting on the back of the couch, shredding tissues, etc.) I've only ever owned mixed breeds and every one of them had some traits of both parents, even if they were very subtle. Sami has no traits of any other dog that I can see. Maybe some of Molly's DNA got mixed in, Molly looks like she could be part chi!

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Wow...no way that dog is mostly chihauhau!! I bet you about fell over when you read that! I, too, would LOVE to find out what Copper is. I know he has some Tibetan Terrier in him, but it's driving me crazy what he's mixed with. Something that likes to dig, cause that's the only naughty thing he does. He is a "model dog" otherwise. Maybe someday I'll get the DNA test done...just not in the budget right now!

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