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Getting a fence

Has there been a thread or sticky about getting a fence. I couldn't find one using search.

Phew! Pets are expensive! (not complaining)
Vet today for neutering.

Been in house for less than year. Getting estimates for removing some dead trees before a fence will limit access to back yard.

Toys! Toys! Toys!

And the fence!
Is one kind of fence any better than another for a small dog? How high can a Hav jump?

I have been asking friends this and get different answers. Some recommend chain link so the dog can see out and not feel trapped. And put a layer of gravel under the fence. They say he won't dig through the gravel to get out.

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I wouldn't worry too much about height. Any fence over four ft high should be fine. Dogs still should be supervised at all times when outside. What ever makes the most sense economically. Inspect on a regular basis for any digging attempts. , not only your dog but possible attempts from outside in.

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I wouldn't worry too much about height. Any fence over four ft high should be fine. Dogs still should be supervised at all times when outside. What ever makes the most sense economically. Inspect on a regular basis for any digging attempts. , not only your dog but possible attempts from outside in.
Yes, the big thing to remember is that almost everywhere in North America we are now faced with coyotes. They can get over even 6-7 foot fences unless there are coyote rollers on the top. (Which add a lot to the cost of the fence!) bobcats, cougars and hawks can also be potential problems depending on where you live. So it's really important to keep an eye on small dogs, even in a fenced yard.

That said, we chose vinyl picket fencing for our "dog yard" (in our case, the back yard) this is very pretty, and maintenance free, but FAR from inexpensive. It was about $7,000 to fence our yard. This is what the PVC picket fence looks like. We've been very happy with it!
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Beautiful fence, yard, and landscaping, Karen!
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Our fence is the same as krandall/Karen's and it works really well. Zeke can happily see out to watch whatever activity or neighbors may be going on. The gaps in the pickets are not a risk for him now that he is fully grown, but have proven to be very beneficial for the squirrels and rabbits to use for a fast escape when Zeke sees them and chases them out of the yard.

Our one issue due to changing elevation in the yard and dips was a few spots had more of a gap at the bottom that we couldn't avoid while keeping the fence level and looking good. I didn't want to try to build up the earth there (lazy) or create some creative rock barriers (tightwad), so we used these http://digdefence.com which have been great and we have not yet had Zeke try to dig out or get out.

As Dave said though, we don't let him stay out there alone to play, so that helps with the not digging and escaping too I suppose.

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I LOVE the white picket fence. We aren't fencing the entire backyard, partially not to interrupt the deer routes and partially to zone dog space and visitor space. We have to take out 6 huge trees thanks to bugs from China. With the trees gone, we will have to watch closely for hawks.

It is obvious that Benjy loves to be outside. He is happy to sit on the porch and watch cars go by. But he so enjoys an all-out run. A fence will be great for him. But he gets going pretty fast in the house.


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Our one issue due to changing elevation in the yard and dips was a few spots had more of a gap at the bottom that we couldn't avoid while keeping the fence level and looking good. I didn't want to try to build up the earth there (lazy) or create some creative rock barriers (tightwad), so we used these http://digdefence.com which have been great and we have not yet had Zeke try to dig out or get out.
I bookmarked the digdefence site. It looks wonderful. Part of the fence will be on sloping or uneven ground. Something like this is imperative. I have asked around for a product to put under fences to in effect extend the fence down over gaps and into the ground. People look at me and roll their eyes. That is where the gravel suggestion came in. Thanks!


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Our fence is the same as krandall/Karen's and it works really well. Zeke can happily see out to watch whatever activity or neighbors may be going on. The gaps in the pickets are not a risk for him now that he is fully grown, but have proven to be very beneficial for the squirrels and rabbits to use for a fast escape when Zeke sees them and chases them out of the yard.

Our one issue due to changing elevation in the yard and dips was a few spots had more of a gap at the bottom that we couldn't avoid while keeping the fence level and looking good. I didn't want to try to build up the earth there (lazy) or create some creative rock barriers (tightwad), so we used these http://digdefence.com which have been great and we have not yet had Zeke try to dig out or get out.

As Dave said though, we don't let him stay out there alone to play, so that helps with the not digging and escaping too I suppose.
What a cool idea! Our back yard is flat enough that it wasn't an issue, but that definitely can be a problem with almost any type of fencing on uneven ground. Great product! I'd use the 2" spacing for Havanese puppies though... Pixel walked though the baby gates we bought with 2 1/2" spacing for a LONG time. I suspect that she could even get through that spacing now if she really tried. We solved the baby gate problem with sheets of plexiglas!


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I LOVE the white picket fence. We aren't fencing the entire backyard, partially not to interrupt the deer routes and partially to zone dog space and visitor space. We have to take out 6 huge trees thanks to bugs from China. With the trees gone, we will have to watch closely for hawks.

It is obvious that Benjy loves to be outside. He is happy to sit on the porch and watch cars go by. But he so enjoys an all-out run. A fence will be great for him. But he gets going pretty fast in the house.
Oh, we didn't fence NEAR our whole property. Part of it is horse paddocks, so fenced, but not in a way that it's very Havanese-safe. We do have plastic chicken fence up on some of that in places where they like to slip through along the driveway. The rest of our property is open to wildlife. The back yard is both dog area and guest area, as many of our friends bring dogs with them. It also encompasses most of the perennial beds, which keeps the XO%& deer out of my gardens!


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Your backyard is lovely Karen. And the extra money spent on the picket fence was more than worth it.


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