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Fly to breeder or have her fly to me?

Hi everyone,

My name is Kate, and my fiance and I are soon-to-be Havanese owners. We are getting married in about a month (!!) and right after we return from our honeymoon at the end of October we will have our new little guy, Augusto. I honestly don't know what I'm most excited for: the wedding, the honeymoon, or the puppy
Anyway, I was hoping to get some advice on physically getting our pup. We live in Brooklyn and the breeder lives in Tampa. We can either fly to Tampa to pick him up, or the breeder can fly to New York and drop him off. Is there any advantage (psychologically, socially, etc.) to either option? I'd love to hear any thoughts, suggestions, or opinions on this.

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P.S. If we opt to pick him up, it'll probably be just me who flies out so we don't have to pay for two plane tickets. If the breeder flew out, we'd pay for her plane ticket, so the cost would be more or less the same.
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I live in the Philadelphia area and Bacca came from Ocala Florida. Janet was kind enough to deliver him to the Philly airport and my DH and I picked him up there. Bacca was a retired breeder so he was a year and a half years old and used to flying. It worked out well for us as she was used to handling a dog on the plane and I wasn't. I am also a reluctant flier!. Also saved us a lot of time! We paid her and Bacca'a airline tickets plus a small fee.

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If the breeder will fly to you, you'll save time for sure, but I think the best situation is for you to fly with the breeder so you can see the parents, the conditions of the environment where he grew up, etc. The absolute worst choice is to fly the puppy to you in cargo, in my opinion, but either of the options you listed aren't bad.
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We got our Cooper from a breeder in Tampa as well. The breeder was T-Wags. Is that who you're dealing with? We loved them and they offered to fly up with our puppy too. We opted for that instead of going down, although we would have loved to go. It worked out great. It turns out Cooper didn't like flying too much so it's good that the breeder, Tim was there to comfort him. Good luck with the hectic months coming up.

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Thanks for your helpful responses
Augusto's breeders are Doug and Kathy of El Morro Havanese.
I am slightly more inclined to have them bring Augusto to us because they have more experience dealing with a pup on a plane than I have. There is an advantage, though, to seeing his set up in Tampa so we can try and (sort of) replicate it here to make his transition smoother.
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Unless you personally know or are very comfortable with the breeder I would really want to see what your pup's living conditions are like. Belonging to this forum had made me feel very reluctant to trust someone that I found just on-line as they can totally misrepresent how he was raised. Thank goodness for the many wonderful breeders here who love their dogs and pups.

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Oh Kate I forgot to mention, congratulations on your and Robert's upcoming wedding and your precious little puppy Augusto!

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If there is a compelling reason to have the breeder fly up rather than you fly down, then by all means do it, as long as you feel 100% confident in the breeder. However, even if you DO feel very comfortable with the breeder (as I did) there are some real advantages to going down to get the pup yourself. First, although a good breeder will do their best to pair you with a pup who is the right match for you, they can't know you all that well from the limited contact you have with them ahead of time. My trainer was adamant that I needed to be prepared to walk away if it wasn't the right puppy. That's a lot harder to do in an airport, when the breeder has come all the way up to you.

Second, I wanted to see, first hand, the conditions my prospective pup was living under. I wanted to meet both of his parents, and see for myself what their temperaments were like. Having met "the whole family" I felt really comfortable that I was getting THE right puppy for me. Every puppy is cute... I wanted to feel comfortable that I had the best shot possible of finding, in a year or two, that I had the DOG I wanted.

Third, the time I spent in the breeders' home (Pam and Tom King, who are members of this forum) was invaluable. They showed me how to bathe him, clip his nails, trim his feet, tummy and bottom. They even showed me how to "line brush" an adult Hav's coat. They were a wealth of knowledge about the breed in general, and I left feeling that I had not only gained a puppy, but new friends as well.

Travelling home with Kodi was really not difficult. The Kings provided me with EVERYTHING I needed for the trip, from Sherpa bag, to potty pads to toys and everything in between. We had a two hour car ride to the airport, and he slept most of the way. He woke up and whined at one point, so we took him out of his bag, put him on his pad and he peed. Put him back in the bag, and back to sleep he went. We gave him an opportunity to pee just before we got on the plane, and he slept quietly until we got to Boston. After another pee break there, he was set for the hour ride home. Maybe not all puppies are as sterling as Kodi was (and I do know the Kings had already introduced him to the Sherpa bag, crates, and riding in the car) but from what I've read, most puppies sleep pretty well on an airplane.

I know that for some people it's not possible to travel to get their puppy. And I think it's a great sign that your breeder cares enough about her puppies to be willing to travel to you. But I urge you to consider going if you can. It's a part of your puppy's life story that you can't really experience any other way.


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I would encourage you to fly there for the puppy, if possible. For the reasons stated above.

I have flown with Gucci several times, and even as a very young puppy, and I really don't think there is anything you need much experience for...it really requires just a lot of love and a few kisses and ear scratches. My girl only gets a little scared at take off and landing and I think that is more from the noise than anything else. Its not very hard flying with a dog, they seem to get red carpet treatment in my experience. lol This last flight, they gave us 'early boarding' because of the dog..and then they fussed over her the whole way! its like traveling with a Superstar!

Congratulations on the marriage and puppy!

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I think it would be great if you flew there for all the reasons mentioned. While I haven't flown with a dog, my husband's mother flies with her little poodle all the time (he is about the size of a smaller Hav, maybe 12 pounds or so. His carrier fits right under the seat and he has always done really well. I think you'll do fine with him, you can put your fingers in his crate if he fusses (and he probably won't). And the breeder will be able to show you so much about him if you go there.

Congratulations on all the new things happening in your life. Have a wonderful wedding, enjoy your honeymoon and don't worry about your new puppy, whatever you decide will work out just fine.
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