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I always wondered about the clicker training, but I guess I do not understand it. I am learning with the discussion of clickers.

I do have a question though....When the pups are trained in a group with clickers, how is your pup suppose to know which clicker is his to respond to?



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That can be quite difficult actually especially if you have the same clickers that make the same click sound. Classes are usually for training you, training at home with less distractions is usually where your dog learns. I like clicker training and use it sometimes. It is also a great way to break down training into small pieces.

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The first class or two my dogs were distracted by all of the clickers going off but it only took a few minutes before they were concentrating on me well enough that they seemed to block out the other clickers.

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I guess I'm lucky in that both of Kodi's classes are small, and only one other person is willing to use a clicker. (interestingly, her dog and Kodi have made the most progress by FAR) Her clicker is the box type, which is louder than mine. (which is the smaller oval shaped type) Neither dog has any trouble distinguishing their own clicker.

Also, now that Kodi is used to the clicker, and really focussed on me during training, I don't think even the same type of clicker would confuse him... he's looking right at me, waiting for _MY_ signal. But he's a dog that had very strong eye contact and concentration from the day we first saw him... one of the things I loved about him.


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Phoebe learns really really fast with a clicker. Since it's not always easy to find it, I mostly use a very fast "Yes!" as a click. There is no way to lose it, and never any confusion about which hand is clicking/ treating etc. It works really well, but the clicker itself is faster when available.

Yesterday she managed to learn "ring the bell" in about 5 minutes. She knew "paw" for shake hands/ offer paw. She knew "touch" for nosing my hand when presented. We got the sleighbell type bells to be a doorbell for her. I used a combination of "paw" and "touch" and she quickly figured out that "ring the bell" means she should whack the bells with her paw. I used lots of "Yes!" to mark when she was getting close to the idea. Of course it still needs work, but that sure was fast!

Another cool thing about clicker training is that it makes your dog think actively. They need to figure out what you want, and how to refine what you want. This makes them creative too-I think it encourages them to offer behaviors and signals. This is especially true if you use the clicker to capture cute behaviors and turn them into tricks. It's very effective. All of this makes your relationship with your dog stronger, and makes your pet a more alert and attentive companion.



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Phoebe learns really really fast with a clicker. Since it's not always easy to find it, I mostly use a very fast "Yes!" as a click. There is no way to lose it, and never any confusion about which hand is clicking/ treating etc. It works really well, but the clicker itself is faster when available.
Also, I've found with Kodi that once he knows something, it's fine NOT to have the clicker with me. He doesn't need to be reinforced with a click for sit or down when we are out walking, because he knows these very well. When he responds, I just tell him he's a good boy. If I have treats with me (usually I do) I give him one. But I think that most of the time, he'd be happy just with the "good boy".


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If I haven't used a clicker so far, would there be any reason to start? Just wondering....

Is there a quiet clicker available?



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I'm not sure I'd do a clicker without having a trainer to teach me how to use it properly - "charging" the clicker, the right moment to click, how to use with verbal prompts, etc. With that said, I've really liked it as a training tool and my dogs are older so there isn't a problem with starting now if you wanted to try it.

A quiet clicker? Sort of defeats the purpose I think. Seriously, there are some that are quieter than others and the sound may be a little different depending on the brand.

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If I haven't used a clicker so far, would there be any reason to start? Just wondering....

Is there a quiet clicker available?
Yes! It's unbelievable how quickly they can learn new things with clicker training... and they don't have to be puppies. I have a good friend (the person who also is helping me train Kodi) who teaches courses in Animal Behavior and Dog Training (among other things) at Becker College. For the Dog Training course, they get in a group of shelter dogs at the beginning of the semester. Most are not house broken or well-socialized, and NONE of them know even basic commands when they arrive. By the end of the semester, they hold a "Pet Fest" where the students show off their dogs doing both obedience and (very basic) agility stuff. They have almost 100% placement rate for dogs out of the program because they are so well trained by that point.

Here is a list of what Kodi has learned so far:

Sit (voice or hand signal)
Down (voice or hand signal)
Stand
Stay (voice or hand signal)
Drop it
Go
Come
Touch (hand, target stick or target on the ground)
Heel (on and off lead, voice or hand signal)
Go on (means to move ahead of me)
Go play (means he's free to do "doggy" stuff)

He is also starting baby agility. He doesn't know all the words yet, though he's got "tunnel" and "jump"(over poles on the ground) down pat, but he also has learned to walk on a baby-height dog walk and A-frame, and walk, trot and run through a ladder on the ground. He's at the point with all of these that I can just point to the obstacle, and he does it. He learned all these obstacles in one afternoon with the aid of a clicker and a target stick.

Not too shabby for 4 1/2 months! He's not "finished" yet, by any means. He's very reliable at home, but he still gets distracted at the training school, so we are working to get him more solid on all commands in many different settings. That will take a lot longer!

But the best thing is, he LOVES to "work". He practically turns himself inside out getting me to work with him. Playing with a toy is fun too, but you can just see the wheels turning in that little head when we are working on this stuff.

As far as finding a quiet clicker is concerned, none of them are THAT loud... unless your dog has a severe sensitivity to noises, I wouldn't worry about it. But many training facilities have the smaller, oval clickers if you want that kind. They are called I-clickers. I got mine at:

http://www.cleanrun.com

They are cheap enough that I bought several to make it worth the shipping.


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A quiet clicker? Sort of defeats the purpose I think. Seriously, there are some that are quieter than others and the sound may be a little different depending on the brand.
I should have added that I didn't buy the I-clickers because they are quieter... Kodi doesn't care. (except that now he's used to the sound of ours when we are training in a group setting) I like the I-clicker because I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, and they're easier on my hands.


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