The Mat and the Stuff! - Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
Linda
 
HavaneseSoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Eastern North Carolina
Posts: 5,409
Submit Photo: 73
Photo Submissions 24 Times in 22 Posts
Smile The Mat and the Stuff!

Dexter had, I repeat had a mat! Found one near the back inner leg, sprayed some of that stuff directly onto the mat and worked out a lot of the mat with my fingers. This mat was probably a good 1 1/2 inches.

What I could not get out with my fingers, I worked a small slicker with soft bristles, then slowly worked the mat from the outer edges toward the center of the mat and manage to remove the mat WITHOUT cutting any hair.

I held the mat between my fingers, so I would not pull on the skin. Dexter was not thrilled about the entire process, but I was gentle. And he received a treat when finished.

What I did remove was a very tiny mat hanging onto a few threads of hair.

Hey! That is some good stuff!



Dexter & Jack
"One Hav is NOT enough to enjoy the RLH skills!"

Last edited by HavaneseSoon; 09-15-2009 at 12:35 PM. Reason: correction
HavaneseSoon is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 01:22 PM
Kimberly
 
Havtahava's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 10,275
Submit Photo: 5
Photo Submissions 18 Times in 12 Posts
When you say "The Stuff", do you mean the grooming/conditioning spray called The Stuff?


If so, I hate to be a downer, but like Chris Christensen's Ice On Ice, it will seem very helpful the first few times, but it will quickly dry out the coat. It has a silicone ingredient, which seems to be the cause, so after using it wash the product out of the coat thoroughly and it shouldn't create any residual damage. I have a bunch of The Stuff here - spray and concentrate. I made that mistake early on in my grooming collection, but I didn't realize it until I'd been using it consistently for several months.
Havtahava is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 01:28 PM
Senior Member
 
trueblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cajun Country
Posts: 2,876
Submit Photo: 23
Photo Submissions 6 Times in 5 Posts
Kimberly, what do you use, Coat Handler or something like that?

Kim, Santos & Brew
trueblue is offline  
 
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 03:21 PM Thread Starter
Linda
 
HavaneseSoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Eastern North Carolina
Posts: 5,409
Submit Photo: 73
Photo Submissions 24 Times in 22 Posts
Thanks for the heads up! I am always on the look out for products that will help with coat condition and dematting. I kept reading how good "The Stuff" was when reading grooming forums, it must be the silicone that make the mats slide out.

So it sounds like if I want to use this product, use it before a good bath and conditioner. I do not plan on saturating Dexter with "The Stuff" only the small amount to ease mat removal. The product does say to use a small amount on the mat.

And just for informational purposes: The bottle does say to use it after baths. And we know, never to bathe a Hav that has mats because the mats will only be worse after bathing, so comb those mats out.

I knew about the "Ice on Ice" drying the coat.

Again, thanks for the heads up!

Oh! I did finally cave in and brought the CC #5 Comb.



Dexter & Jack
"One Hav is NOT enough to enjoy the RLH skills!"
HavaneseSoon is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 03:30 PM
Senior Member
 
Luciledodd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Paris, TN
Posts: 2,496
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 10 Times in 10 Posts
New Havanese owner

I have been reading and trying to learn about the coat and mats. I got my baby 2 months ago when she was 4 months old and no one told me that that beautiful silky coat would change to a thick curly cork-screws that is matting terribly. I brush every day sometime twice a day and to no avail. But this morning, I used Mane and Tail diluted by half and lightly sprayed on the mats. They just slid right out--no pain--just gone. Course by the time we got ready to go to the office for the day, she had the little cork-screws again; but no mats. Will her hair always have the corkscrews? and is that normal? She is a little doll and quite small a little under 6 pounds. Will post pictures when I figure out how.
Luciledodd is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 03:35 PM
Senior Member
 
Luciledodd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Paris, TN
Posts: 2,496
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 10 Times in 10 Posts
New Havanese owner

I have been reading and trying to learn about the coat and mats. I got my baby 2 months ago when she was 4 months old and no one told me that that beautiful silky coat would change to a thick curly cork-screws that is matting terribly. I brush every day sometime twice a day and to no avail. But this morning, I used Mane and Tail diluted by half and lightly sprayed on the mats. They just slid right out--no pain--just gone. Course by the time we got ready to go to the office for the day, she had the little cork-screws again; but no mats. Will her hair always have the corkscrews? and is that normal? She is a little doll and quite small a little under 6 pounds. Will post pictures when I figure out how.
Luciledodd is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 04:13 PM
Kimberly
 
Havtahava's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 10,275
Submit Photo: 5
Photo Submissions 18 Times in 12 Posts
Kim, I use a couple of different products depending on the dog and his/her coat, but Coat Handler is my primary grooming & conditioning product and I do use it on all my dogs. (I only use other products for special situations.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by HavaneseSoon View Post
Thanks for the heads up! I am always on the look out for products that will help with coat condition and dematting. I kept reading how good "The Stuff" was when reading grooming forums, it must be the silicone that make the mats slide out.
Oh yes, I know it is highly touted, just like Ice on Ice is. Both products appear to be miracle workers at first, but they do so much damage if they are left in the hair. The problem is that the problems aren't noticed right away. It seems to be a slow damaging problem.

Lucilledodd, I haven't had any Main and Tail around for a long time. Can you check the ingredients? Just make sure it doesn't have any kind of silicone product in it. The ingredient will end in -ethicone if it does. With a coat like your Hav's, make sure you condition well. You might want to search this forum for the word "float" and learn how to float her coat with some Coat Handler conditioner after a bath. If her hair is curly enough to make corkscrews, you're going to have a harder time keeping her mat-free when she starts blowing coat. I'd recommend a good conditioning and blow dry that coat with a comb instead of air drying it.
Havtahava is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 05:46 PM
Senior Member
 
Luciledodd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Paris, TN
Posts: 2,496
Submit Photo: 6
Photo Submissions 10 Times in 10 Posts
Thanks for the reply. I don't know the ingredients--not posted on the label. It is Show-sheen brand. The breeder gave me a lot of useless info on puppy food and not shutting doors (supposedly the Hav can't stand to be shut out of sight) well I's not going to the bathroom with a dog, and only using stainless-steel bowls, etc. I have had dogs all my life and all that was worthless. My Havanese is a perfectly adjusted little angel baby that goes with me to work every day and I hope is alive when I go to the nursing home. But, nothing useful about the adult coat and like an idiot, I didn't realize that the 4-month old dog's coat would change. I just thought that it would grow longer. Boy have I been in for a surprise. I am afraid the is is going to be the cottony one. I wish I could see pictures of others that were not brushed so I would feel better. Thenks again
Luciledodd is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-15-2009, 11:40 PM
Senior Member
 
JASHavanese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: FLORIDA!
Posts: 4,657
Submit Photo: 1
Photo Submissions 3 Times in 3 Posts
Use The Stuff with caution if you have tile floors. It can turn them into an ice skating rink. Condition the coat well, it has silicone in it, which dries the fur out.

Jan
jashavanese.net
JASHavanese is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-16-2009, 08:18 AM
Baloo's Mom
 
HavaBaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 532
Submit Photo: 1
Photo Submissions 0 Times in 0 Posts
That's great Linda, if you keep on the matts as soon as you see them that is the trick, or what I have found. I think it depends on the coat as well, Baloo has the silkier type with a few waves, but my friends Hav is kinky kurly (cork screw type) and can't keep her Hav in a full coat because she would have to brush him 4 or 5 times a day to keep the mats out. Baloo is now 1 year so I have been waiting for the dreaded Blowing Coat, but maybe he won't be so bad since I make sure to brush him every day and keep him clean (or I will keep hoping that )

~ Angie ~
Mom to Baloo

HavaBaloo is offline  
Reply

Tags
blowing coat , mat , matt , tangles , the stuff

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Havanese Forum : Havanese Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome