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Dental "Vaccine"

Thought I would post this as a follow up to Julie's thread . I contacted Sabine at Better Dog Care and asked her about this new dental vaccine. Here is her reply;
Hi David,

yes, I'm familiar with the vaccine - it's a bacterin and it is not supposed to prevent tartar buildup, but to help prevent periodontitis (inflammation of the tissue and bones supporting the teeth).
http://www.pfizerah.com/PAHimages/co...compliance.pdf

A bacterin is a vaccine made from the dead cells of the specific bacterium, and the vaccine also contains an adjuvant (agent that modifies the effect of the vaccine to cause a better immune response), which can pose a risk in itself, especially for small dogs.

I've heard of quite a number of people whose dogs reacted badly to this vaccine, either immediately after injection, or even just after a few days. The reaction is usually worse after the second injection.

This is not a vaccine I would ever use for my own dog, but then I'm very much in favor of a minimalistic approach when it comes to vaccines:
http://www.ourdogsonline.com/content...onvaccines.pdf
http://www.betterdogcare.com/?page=vaccines

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Thanks, Dave, for checking it out with Sabine. I think I will pass on the vaccine for Abby even if it is available here. She had a reaction with one of her yearly vaccine's back in January so I, too, am all in favor of the minimalistic approach. I think we'd all like a magic bullet but it looks like we'll have to just brush their teeth regularly as much as I hate it.......lol I have been trying the Plaque Off for a few months but the jury is still out on that!

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Thanks Dave! Nice information to know.



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Yep Kathie seems like we always need an instant fix.

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Dave, Thanks for this info.

When do they recommend the first dental cleaning. I have to say I have used petz life once a week (with a tooth brush) since the boys were pups and I don't see any tarter, but I imagine it is there.




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Dave, Thanks for this info.

When do they recommend the first dental cleaning. I have to say I have used petz life once a week (with a tooth brush) since the boys were pups and I don't see any tarter, but I imagine it is there.
Yeah Missy. I have to take Molly in. She has tartar. Dogs are apparently different than humans. They tend to get it on the outside of their teeth.

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Yeah Missy. I have to take Molly in. She has tartar. Dogs are apparently different than humans. They tend to get it on the outside of their teeth.
bold is mine. Where else would you get tartar than on the outside of the teeth?

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I meant on the outside meaning closer to your cheeks than your tongue. LOL

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Yes my tartar is always on the inside lower teeth...TMI-lol.

What age do they recommend you get their teeth cleaned and how often do you have it done? they have to be sedated right?




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yes they have to be sedated. They only have to be done if there is tartar or gum inflamation. I'm hoping that this will be the first and last for us. But like Sabine says sometimes some dogs just don't have the designer genes and are more prone to tartar etc. Here is a post I just did recently if you didn't see it. http://havaneseforum.com/showthread....=tartar+Sabine

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