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Oliver is 11 months old and there's a couple things I want to work on with him. I'll definitely seek a trainer's advice too, but I have wait times w trainers around here because of the holidays.

Chewing on stuff! When will this end? Clothing, socks, my chairs, grabbing little toys (scary!) and chewing. He also follows me around nipping at my socks (playing but still annoying). What is the best way to handle that kind of thing? This is part my fault because the more I tell him no, the more attention I'm giving it. Often he wants attention (pick him up and cuddle him and he stops). He's sensitive and sweet, which I love about him, but he also reminds me of a toddler who wraps their arms around your leg when you try to leave. I'll be working on my computer and he keeps jumping on the keyboard and nibbling my clothes until I pick him uo and cuddle him. I don't mind him in my lap, but I can't give him my full, undivided attention while I'm working.

He also nips super gently when he has to go potty so I don't want to discourage that...

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Potty training. He has had two poop accidents recently because he sometimes refuses to poop outside. It's usually something like he'd rather go for a long walk, he gets distracted, etc. He hasn't peed in the house since he was 4 months old. But I can't spend so much time getting him to poop. or he won't go and let us know hours later (say 10 pm) that he needs to.
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Does he like chew toys - I would suggest having a ton of them around and substitute them for whatever he's taking. I've been very lucky, we got Perry at 8 months and he has always loved his chew toys (And cloth toys to tear and "kill"). But when I don't have any around (like at my Mom's where i keep the toys up to prevent fighting with my Mom's dog), he will go after things like socks.
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Does he like chew toys - I would suggest having a ton of them around and substitute them for whatever he's taking. I've been very lucky, we got Perry at 8 months and he has always loved his chew toys (And cloth toys to tear and "kill"). But when I don't have any around (like at my Mom's where i keep the toys up to prevent fighting with my Mom's dog), he will go after things like socks.
He definitely likes chew toys, but he likes the whole forbidden fruit of theft lol. And now he gets the drop it command, gets into stuff and sure he’ll drop it. For a treat. But I follow him around all day trading for treats. I’m also training kids to keep bathroom doors shut (so he doesn’t get into trash and toilet paper) but that’s a work in progress too
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He definitely likes chew toys, but he likes the whole forbidden fruit of theft lol. And now he gets the drop it command, gets into stuff and sure heíll drop it. For a treat. But I follow him around all day trading for treats. Iím also training kids to keep bathroom doors shut (so he doesnít get into trash and toilet paper) but thatís a work in progress too
Honestly? We ended up getting all foot-pedal type covered wastebaskets. I got tired of fighting that fight with Kodi...
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Honestly? We ended up getting all foot-pedal type covered wastebaskets. I got tired of fighting that fight with Kodi...
I'm so thankful Perry hasn't shown much interest in the waste baskets... he will tear apart a paper on the floor if it's been there a while AND a few weeks ago when I had him tethered in the kitchen with me I must have knocked a wooden spoon off of the calendar (a clean one) because I looked over a few minutes later to see him shredding it (that was a worry for a bit - did he swallow any or not!) To be fair, I hadn't brought any of his toys into the kitchen with us and he couldn't go get them himself because of being on restriction.
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Okay so the sock thing- mine will completely pull off my kids socks and he ďconquersĒ them like theyíre a toy, all to initiate play. I gave up on that one because he doesnít do it with me, and he uses incredible bite inhibition when he grabs their socks when theyíre on their feet. It drives my kids crazy when theyíre putting their socks and shoes on for school, but they also sit there and giggle half the time, and stick their feet with socks on them in his face at other times to get him to play because they think itís funny. I have decided this is a kid training issue, not a dog training issue, and if and when they get sick of it then theyíre going to have to help solve the problem. I started treating shutting gates the same way and I feel your pain. Itís more work to get my kids to clean up a puppy shredding mess than to clean it up myself sometimes, but it took a few times of cleaning up those messes before they remembered to shut the gates and doors. Iím also mean and Iíve been known to have them come all the way back downstairs just to shut the gate Everyone is learning together, it just takes time and repetition for those habits to form.

As far as him nipping at your own feet as a cue to go potty, I wonder if thereís a way to replace that cue. Maybe someone can suggest a way to actively train that. Mine did it, too, when he needed to poop, but he doesnít anymore, and I donít know what changed. I did bell training, which turned out kind of funny. The bell was too heavy, and I meant to replace it but I never got around to it. We still rang it ourselves every time we took him out. Eventually he started sitting by the bell, even though he canít ring it. I didnít start bell training until he was already reliable though, and a big piece of him being reliable with poop was adjusting his diet. Maybe you could try taking him out earlier before he gives you his cue and training some kind of cue at that interval, then back off until he gives you his cue and use the replacement then. Not sure about that!

Mine was a finicky about poop but itís gotten so much better. If there is a car next door I donít even bother, I know it will take forever because heíll just watch. Heíll still pee so I let him go and then take him back out in 5 minutes. Then I carry him to a spot and tell him to go potty and put him down. If he doesnít start sniffing I pick him up and do it again. He rarely needs that second prompt, but sometimes he remembers someone was outside a few minutes ago, or that itís almost time for the kids to get home so heíll start watching for them. Itís just too cold outside for me to wait around for him to poop, Iím way too impatient! I do think some of it is age. Heís 2 now and he still gets distracted but itís not anywhere near as intense and hyper. So keep pushing through!
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Okay so the sock thing- mine will completely pull off my kids socks and he “conquers” them like they’re a toy, all to initiate play. I gave up on that one because he doesn’t do it with me, and he uses incredible bite inhibition when he grabs their socks when they’re on their feet. It drives my kids crazy when they’re putting their socks and shoes on for school, but they also sit there and giggle half the time, and stick their feet with socks on them in his face at other times to get him to play because they think it’s funny. I have decided this is a kid training issue, not a dog training issue, and if and when they get sick of it then they’re going to have to help solve the problem. I started treating shutting gates the same way and I feel your pain. It’s more work to get my kids to clean up a puppy shredding mess than to clean it up myself sometimes, but it took a few times of cleaning up those messes before they remembered to shut the gates and doors. I’m also mean and I’ve been known to have them come all the way back downstairs just to shut the gate <img src="http://www.havaneseforum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /> Everyone is learning together, it just takes time and repetition for those habits to form.

As far as him nipping at your own feet as a cue to go potty, I wonder if there’s a way to replace that cue. Maybe someone can suggest a way to actively train that. Mine did it, too, when he needed to poop, but he doesn’t anymore, and I don’t know what changed. I did bell training, which turned out kind of funny. The bell was too heavy, and I meant to replace it but I never got around to it. We still rang it ourselves every time we took him out. Eventually he started sitting by the bell, even though he can’t ring it. I didn’t start bell training until he was already reliable though, and a big piece of him being reliable with poop was adjusting his diet. Maybe you could try taking him out earlier before he gives you his cue and training some kind of cue at that interval, then back off until he gives you his cue and use the replacement then. Not sure about that!

Mine was a finicky about poop but it’s gotten so much better. If there is a car next door I don’t even bother, I know it will take forever because he’ll just watch. He’ll still pee so I let him go and then take him back out in 5 minutes. Then I carry him to a spot and tell him to go potty and put him down. If he doesn’t start sniffing I pick him up and do it again. He rarely needs that second prompt, but sometimes he remembers someone was outside a few minutes ago, or that it’s almost time for the kids to get home so he’ll start watching for them. It’s just too cold outside for me to wait around for him to poop, I’m way too impatient! I do think some of it is age. He’s 2 now and he still gets distracted but it’s not anywhere near as intense and hyper. So keep pushing through!
Thanks Elizabeth. All of this I can relate to. I think having kids can be both a help and hindrance in training! Lol
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Thanks Elizabeth. All of this I can relate to. I think having kids can be both a help and hindrance in training! Lol
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Cassie at four still likes to put forbidden things in her mouth.

Step on trash cans definitely necessary. Toilet paper a constant issue. Normally, it is kept on bathroom sink rather than on the toilet paper holder. When we have guests, I put it on the holder and about half the time, she checks, finds it and unrolls it..fortunately, she makes alot of noise doing it so gets caught. I canít train her to leave it so prevention is the only solution.

Nipping stopped long ago but during puppy stage, it had to be trained away with time outs, ignoring etc.
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My Teddy is also 11 months. I hope it gives you comfort to know that we are living mirror lives
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