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It's all about habit for them. If he is missing the target, go back down in size until he is successful, and then, only gradually, go up in available room. It has nothing to do with reasoning at this age. You have to develop the habit that he goes on the pad.
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Goodness a year? The breeder told us a few weeks, LOL!! I think that's why we're a bit frustrated. Everyone has been telling us Havanese are smart and they pick up on potty training quickly, but now we're hearing differently. Oh well. It's a good thing he's so darn cute!
Oh yeah. I mean they’re smart but they are little dogs. And therefore not known to be quick to potty train. I was absolutely consistent but ultimately indoor training didn’t work for us. He was doing pretty good around 5 months but still had some poop accidents. To complicate matters they can be reliable for a while and then regress. He’s what I’d consider potty trained at 14 months but I still take him out every few hrs.
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I failed potty training

My Lil angel ďAva the DivaĒ will be four in April. She is not potty trained, I am. I just let her out every 4 hours. She will NOT bark to go out she will go to door and if I happen to see her I will let her out. If I donít catch her she will go on floor by door. I tried the bell she seem afraid of it.
When I let her out and say ď go pottyĒ she will go.
When it is raining or wet out she will run out back and go on outside kitchen area!!!!!!!!!!! NOT on the grass next to the patio because it is wet!
Is it too late for her/me?
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Around the same age, my little girl was doing the same thing - - going right outside her box . I finally started changing her box every time she went, and then she was more likely to use the box correctly. (Doesnít sound like that will work with your system.) But the thing was, sheíd be good for a few months, and then there would be accidents. It was around a year old, when she would get let out more consistently, that she will go inside, on the box, when unable to go outside because of weather. I have found, though, that when she is not happy about something, she will go in the wrong place. My sister came to visit for a week. Zumba absolutely loved her. The day my sister went back home, Zumba pooped all over the house, nowhere near her boxes. Thankfully, she was back to her normal self the next day, and in a month weíve had no more problems.

I look forward to the day she could hold it for 4 hours. Hour and a half seems to be her preferred limit.
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My Lil angel ďAva the DivaĒ will be four in April. She is not potty trained, I am. I just let her out every 4 hours. She will NOT bark to go out she will go to door and if I happen to see her I will let her out. If I donít catch her she will go on floor by door. I tried the bell she seem afraid of it.
When I let her out and say ď go pottyĒ she will go.
When it is raining or wet out she will run out back and go on outside kitchen area!!!!!!!!!!! NOT on the grass next to the patio because it is wet!
Is it too late for her/me?
If you can let her out every 4 hours and she goes potty, isnít that potty trained? Is she having accidents inside if sheís let out every 4 hours?

When itís raining, can you take her out on a leash? Or block off her access to the the kitchen area?

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She is not potty trained, I am.
I get what youíre saying, that itís frustrating to be tied to taking her out every 4 hours, but a big piece of potty training IS sort of self training and diligence as the owner. You know what she needs and youíre following through, Iím not sure itís bad behavior on her part. It seems like the problem is more that itís become a burden, and maybe thereís a way to get help and relieve that stress. Itís great when a dog can let its owner know he needs to go, especially if itís out of the ordinary, but at least a schedule is predictable. I would much rather be on a schedule I can control than be on call for my dog to tell me when he needs to go.

Can you check with the vet to make sure there isnít something that would make it difficult for her to hold it longer than 4 hours? Is she pretty small? I pretty much take mine every 4 hours as an adult because it fits with my schedule, so it doesnít sound that crazy to me. Mine can go longer, but itís easier to fit it into my routine than keep track of whether or not itís been 6 hours or when I took him out last. Thatís why the indoor potty can be so useful, but i donít know how to teach/reteach indoor potty to an adult dog.
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@EvaE1izabeth whenever he has an accident and goes on the gray carpet cover instead of on his gray potty tray, we do spray it with Nature's Miracle. After a few accidents we wash the whole cover. I do think the issue may be distinguishing between the gray carpet cover and the gray potty pad. Both are the same color so this may be confusing him. I'll see if we can get a different color carpet cover.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions!
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@Avic77 we do have him in his X-pen 24/7 but it's large enough for him to get plenty of exercise and play on his own. Plus we let him our several times a day for up to half an hour to play with him and take him for walks. Our breeder and trainer told us that small puppies should not have access to a big house, especially while potty training, so that is why we decided on the X-pen.
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Another voice. Your ex-pen area is too large. The puppy doesn't need a large area to play. They need space for some toys, a water and food bowel and a place to lay down. I'll also suggest you use Two Potty Trays to cover more area of the floor and get rid of the paper potty pads. The paper pads smell and if you let the potty pads or potty trays get too stinky, the dog will seek out some other place to pee and poop.

Instead of using paper potty pads, get Equine Horse Pellet bedding and put in the Potty Trays. These absorb odor and you don't need to change them out as often as you do paper pads.

Patti was one-year-old before we took down her ex-pen. Her ex-pen opened up into a kitchen-family area where the family spends a lot of time and when people were in this room and could watch her, she roamed in and out of her ex-pen in this family area.

The ex-pen comes in very handy as the puppy goes through some annoying stages, such as the bitting stage. There will be times when your puppy will needed a couple of Time Out minutes.

At one time I five gates up around our house while we indoor-potty trained her. For example: If we were in the TV room, Patti was confined to that room with a potty tray near by and EYES were on her. In the beginning, I put her on a leash until she learned where the potty tray was in each room.

Patti was 10-months old before I started taking down gates and allowed to move around from a few different rooms. Even then she was not alone until I was confident she would go to the potty tray.

At one time, I had three different rooms with potty trays. She now goes to one potty tray in the house, but at age 2 prefers to go outside.
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This is going to sound scary, but I teally think if you make the ex pen smaller you wonít need anything over the carpet. Mikkiís idea with the potty trays is fantastic!! Completely cover the carpet, then remove one. And then you have an additional potty tray for a different area of your home, the garage, etc. If you want her to be potty trained on carpet, resist the urge to protect it from her too much. Of course you donít want to set her up to fail by giving her a large carpeted area with a small potty area she has to find. But, if she sees carpet as part of her bed, that can be really helpful in training and preventing her from peeing on it in the future. I avoided my rugs and my carpeted loft area for too long and I should have spent more time playing and training (closely supervised) in those areas when he was younger. It required more diligence and it was more of a pain when I had to spend more time on it later because I kept him off the rugs until he was a year old.
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My ex-pen was located on a tile floor. In a second vacation home where every room is carpeted I purchased a piece of linoleum and put it under the ex-pen there. After Patti was indoor-potty trained I cut the linoleum down and placed the potty tray on top it.

While training there will be some accidents and you will want to quickly clean it up and deodorize the area. In our primary home, the indoor potty tray is located on a tile floor in our master bathroom. There have been a few occasions Patti has not gotten her butt over the whole tray and some pee or poop landed on the floor. So, I would not put the a potty tray on top of a carpet.

Since your are starting out I would switch to a litter box with sides, that should prevent that from happening. I have many different types of potty trays and found Patti switched easily to a new one and I'm going to try one with sides where I have carpet. When I switched potty trays, I always rubbed some pee and poop on top of the grate ... just to make sure she knew - This Is The Place To Do Your Job.

As You know ... The Key is Consistency, Patience and TREATS!!!!

Patti essentially trained herself. From the first day, at 8-weeks she automatically went to do the potty tray to do her job. However, in the beginning my ex-pen was too large, there were a few times she got close but didn't quit make it onto the potty tray and I added two potty trays to take up space. That fixed the problem. My ex-pen was 3' x 6'. Patti quickly learned to find the litter potty tray and I removed the second tray.

These little dogs are VERY smart and in my experience Patti was easily housebroken. But ... it takes time. Don't be in a big rush to let your little one roam the house.
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