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simple idea for new puppy owners and everyone really

Just watched this kikopup video, Why newbies FAIL using treats and toys to train dogs. I wish I'd seen it when Shama was little. Makes perfect sense and will still help me get Shama interested in treats, toys, and people.

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Thanks so much! This is really helpful
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Such a REALLY, REALLY important concept for people to understand!!!
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Thank you for sharing! Was a very informative video...
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Some good Tips here.

I have a problem with Patti if she gets out the front door or out of the fenced yard. She takes off and if you go after her she runs away. Once she ran all the way to and across the street, which is a long way from our front door.

When delivery people come to the front door we have to make sure to have eyes on her before opening the door.

Yesterday, I thought Patti was secured behind a closed door in my bedroom when a I opened the front door for a take out dinner delivery guy. From out of nowhere Patti burst through the front door and down the sidewalk.

For some reason the delivery boy thought he could get her, but I insisted he come inside the house which he finally did. When he came inside Patti came back and followed him inside.

Whew!!!

I've told family numerous times ... Don't go after Patti if she gets out ... Call her and walk away. She'll follow and she does ... but sometimes not as quick as I'd like.
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That is great!! I just followed Kikopup on youtube and will watch a bunch while we try to wait for our eventual puppy!! Thank you SO much for sharing that!!
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I have a problem with Patti if she gets out the front door or out of the fenced yard. She takes off and if you go after her she runs away. Once she ran all the way to and across the street, which is a long way from our front door.

When delivery people come to the front door we have to make sure to have eyes on her before opening the door.

Yesterday, I thought Patti was secured behind a closed door in my bedroom when a I opened the front door for a take out dinner delivery guy. From out of nowhere Patti burst through the front door and down the sidewalk.

For some reason the delivery boy thought he could get her, but I insisted he come inside the house which he finally did. When he came inside Patti came back and followed him inside.

Whew!!!

I've told family numerous times ... Don't go after Patti if she gets out ... Call her and walk away. She'll follow and she does ... but sometimes not as quick as I'd like.
Hopefully someone smarter than I am will respond to your problem. You have my sympathy. Shama has never run out the front door or out the gate of our fenced-in back yard, but we are paranoid that she will. If the doorbell rings, we either pick her up or plunk her in her pen.

The closest thing to running away has been when she has run out of the agility ring, but that hasn't happened for a while.

Does anyone have advice on the topic of running out the front door? I suppose it deserves its own thread ...

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Hopefully someone smarter than I am will respond to your problem. You have my sympathy. Shama has never run out the front door or out the gate of our fenced-in back yard, but we are paranoid that she will. If the doorbell rings, we either pick her up or plunk her in her pen.

The closest thing to running away has been when she has run out of the agility ring, but that hasn't happened for a while.

Does anyone have advice on the topic of running out the front door? I suppose it deserves its own thread ...
We do exactly what you do if the doorbell rings ... we pick up Patti or plunk her behind a gate. And...careful if we are going in and out the fence gate. She usually stands back because she knows she's not suppose to go out.

Not chasing after her works, if I move the other way she'll eventually turn around to follow.
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Hopefully someone smarter than I am will respond to your problem. You have my sympathy. Shama has never run out the front door or out the gate of our fenced-in back yard, but we are paranoid that she will. If the doorbell rings, we either pick her up or plunk her in her pen.

The closest thing to running away has been when she has run out of the agility ring, but that hasn't happened for a while.

Does anyone have advice on the topic of running out the front door? I suppose it deserves its own thread ...
All I can say is work, work, WORK on reliable recalls!

You are both right... NEVER chase them!!! That’s a game you can’t win. Another “trick” that will work as long as it’s not abused, is to “find” something “yummy” in the grass. Get down on your hands and knees. Make a HUGE big deal of how FANTASTIC whatever you’ve found is. Dogs are INCREDIBLY gullible, curious, and they LOVE to share “found stuff”. Make SURE you have something yummy for them when they get there. Make SURE you do NOT immediately GRAB them. Skritch them as they eat their “found” treasure, share the “moment” with them, then gently pick them up and bring them back in the house while tou celebrate your wonderful adventure together.
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One of the things we’ve done with Dexter is work with the command Wait. He has to wait at any doorway or other type of door ( ie car door) to be released to go out. We’re still working on it being a default behavior, but he will do it with the wait command. That might help? We used a long lead attached to our waist when teaching it to him at the front door in case he bolted😉. Just another idea to help her from running in the first place... Our recall isn’t as good as the wait command so we’re still a work in progress on that one!
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