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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 11-12-2016, 12:23 PM Thread Starter
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Neutering Advice Please

I'm hoping I can get some opinions and advice on the right time to neuter Bowie. He's 17 weeks old and weighs 6.4 pounds. He squats to pee, but is humping more. Seems as if he doesn't even play with the little girl pup across the street anymore, he's only interested in humping her. I'm getting it a lot more too. I remember a post from a member that neutered her boy young and he just kept growing. So I guess I'm asking at what age is best? I'd love for him to not lift his leg and am scared of the whole marking in the house bit...Thanks so much for all help!

Also, does anyone know how to get the TickerFactory to start ticking? Bowie is paused, which actually isn't a bad thing, as I'm loving this puppy so much!

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the best time for neutering males is probably never. For neutering females it becomes a personal preference . Here's more http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf
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I am very interested in seeing the responses to your question. Oreo is 22 weeks old, and I have been thinking about neutering him in the next couple of weeks. He has been humping the giant Doodles across the street (pretty funny to see!). Thankfully he hasn't humped any people yet! He still squats to pee as well. My friend had her Havanese neutered in the 5 month range. She said she called the vet the first time he lifted his leg, and got it done the next day. She has never had an issue with him marking. Her Bichon had been neutered at 6-7 months, and she was never able to get him to stop marking. Maybe it was just a difference in the two dogs, but I think I will follow her lead on this. I have only had female dogs in the past, and I had reservations about a male dog because of the potential for marking.
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As far as humping and marking are concerned, treat those behaviors as you would any other behavior you want to discourage. Interrupt, redirect or provide an alternate behavior and praise when your dog plays in other ways. Our household has 4 dogs, 3 males (2 of which are neutered and one spayed female). I don't permit the dogs to hump each other. Any attempts at humping are interrupted with an "ahnt" and other play interactions are praised. This is done from the first day a new puppy comes into the house. Typically, the new puppy has a stuffed toy to hump but I have found that within a few months the puppy loses interest in the stuffed toy and simply plays with the other dogs by wrestling, chasing, playing tug, etc. Because I don't permit humping of other dogs it is just not a behavior they engage in.

As far as marking is concerned I treat it exactly as I do any potty behavior. I watch the pups very closely and interrupt any inappropriate attempts at urination and take the puppy outside where squatting to pee or lifting a leg is acceptable.

If you treat these behaviors as you do other behaviors and don't excuse them due to "hormones" or whatever, your dog will behave as you want him to.


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Yup, what Pucks104 said. Marking and humping are behaviors that can easily be trained out, though a little extra diligence is needed if you have a particularly randy male

As far as what time, 5 months is INCREDIBLY early. I wouldn't spay or neuter any time before the dog is done growing, so a year or so at the very least. Mario was neutered around 18 months and has never had an issue with humping or marking. Nino only gets...excited...around one particular bitch, even when she isn't in heat. He has been around a female in season before and didn't even blink. Doesn't bode well for a stud dog career He has also shown no sign of even thinking about marking, though he is almost 11 months old and definitely past sexual maturity.
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Thanks KarMar and Pucks for sharing your opinions. As my name implies, I am a novice, both to Havanese and male dogs. I had asked the vet what age to do it, and never got a clear response. Based on your responses, I am inclined to wait a few more months.
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Thanks so much for all the advice! I agree, best to wait until full grown or if at all...
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Ricky was neutered at 11 months and he is very happy and healthy today. Occasionally he will show sexual interest in another dog but we quickly redirect and it is never a problem. Occasionally he will mark outdoors but not always. When another dog visits his yard and pees, Ricky will quickly over-mark that spot two or three times in succession. His female cousin doggie (55 pounds) is visiting with us this week and Ricky has to be dehydrated from all the over-marking in HIS yard. Thank dog they are both napping right now, otherwise it is pandemonium with wild play, indoors and out! Ricky gives as good as he gets. Here is an "artsy" photo of the two of them in one of their quieter moments

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Thanks for the link, very helpful.
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Hi again, Dave. Do you (or others) have more information about "spay incontinence"? It sounds as though the incidence is quite significant, and I really, really don't want to have to cope with an incontinent dog, nor to give her meds for this for life! Has anyone on the forum experienced this problem?

Maisie is almost 7 months old now, and I'm thinking I'll wait until she's a year old to spay, given the information provided here.

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