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Housetraining regression

All had been going very well with house training until just recently, at about 5 1/2 months, Goldie won't pee outside when we take her out. In the past, her schedule was that she'd go outside at around 7:00 am (pee and poop) and then we'd take her out about every 3 hours until 9:30 or 10pm. Today for example, she hasn't peed for the past 8 hours. This has happened on several different occasions in the past week. We try to then put her in her crate for 10-15 minutes and try again outside. Again, won't go. Crate another 10-15 mins, outside again, etc. I say that we "try" to put her in her crate and take her out again because it's just really hard to let the house training dictate our schedule at this point. If I need to be somewhere at noon I don't have the luxury of being able to take her out 4-5 times in the hour before. Sometimes she will then have an accident in the kitchen but usually she just holds it.

She doesn't really give us signs that she needs to go; we've just been trying to take her out on a schedule. So maybe she doesn't need to go? Do puppies of this age typically hold it for 6-7 hours during the day?

Some other info: she almost always holds it all night from 10-7. When we're outside in the yard she's easily distracted by small twigs, min acorns, tufts of grass, etc. There is no way for us to eliminate these things - the yard is covered with them. But I wonder if she's just too distracted to focus on what she's supposed to do out there.

Any thoughts on what could be going on? She's eating and sleeping normally and seems otherwise healthy.
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Puppies do go through periods of back-sliding... progress is not linear. Just do everything you can to prevent accidents. So that means, if she hasn't gone outside, she needs to either be in her crate or an ex-pen with a potty option until you can take her outside again.

She'll get back on track!
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Thank you for the advice. We had phased out the indoor potty option; it just wasn't working for us to do both because we tended to default to the indoor option more out laziness, to be honest, and I thought we were getting into a bad habit (particularly the teenagers in the house).

I'm hesitant to leave her in the crate for too long - worried that she'll be forced to eliminate in there and then we'll have a big problem. On the other hand, I have been putting her in the crate for 2 - 2 1/2 hour periods to encourage her to hold it.
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My first Havanese could hold it all day long and was never confined in a pen or crate, but was loose in the house after about a month. I found out later that she was crate trained by the breeder and learned to hold it. There were times I would let her out, and she just didn't care to urinate. I'm not so sure that is a healthy thing, but she just NEVER had to pee often, even when she was young. Tux, on the other hand was a peeing machine until a few months ago. We still go out about 5 times a day just to be safe.

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Thank you for the advice. We had phased out the indoor potty option; it just wasn't working for us to do both because we tended to default to the indoor option more out laziness, to be honest, and I thought we were getting into a bad habit (particularly the teenagers in the house).

I'm hesitant to leave her in the crate for too long - worried that she'll be forced to eliminate in there and then we'll have a big problem. On the other hand, I have been putting her in the crate for 2 - 2 1/2 hour periods to encourage her to hold it.
Well, you have a bigger problem if you are letting her face accidents indoors. That's why an ex-pen with a potty option is so helpful. When you CAN'T be working on potty training, it gives the puppy a "right" answer, without having an accident that was kind of forced on them.

I don't believe in making puppies learn to "hold it" unnaturally. That can lead to UTI's and even kidney problems. We go find a bathroom when we need it, and they should have that option too. That said, there is no reason that a 5 month old puppy who has gone just before crating can't wait COMFORTABLY for 2 or 2 1/2 hours. If that's the longest you will have to leave her, I see no problem with crating at all. You were talking about 6-7 hours, and that is too long to EXPECT even an adult dog to "hold it", even though some might choose to do that on their own at times.

Remember, during your puppy's first year, your MAIN GOAL with potty training is to help the puppy establish good habits. (no accidents) It may take longer than that for them to start giving you a signal that they need to go out. That's just life with puppies!
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