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Mornings are rough..

Yoshi came home on Saturday, yay! She is lovely and playful, and fits in really well. She has slept through the last two nights, and only up once the first night. Here's the problem, in the morning she is psychotic. I take her out to potty first thing, then we've walked a bit for the last two days. She is a like a little piranha though, all she wants to do is jump, attack and nip. I've given her toys and she seems to be getting that she should attack them instead of me, but we're still working on that. She is still full of energy by the time the kids get up (9 & 11), and seems to ramp up to full blast again when she sees them. We can't get anything done, she's in full play/attack mode. She nips at the kids toes while they are trying to eat breakfast.

This morning was especially bad because it was raining and she started to shiver a bit after going potty so we didn't walk. So, after trying to get her to calm down (turning away when she nips, walking away- etc) I put her in her ex pen with toys, and ignored her crying and barking so we could get breakfast and pack lunches. She got so upset that she vomited and peed. It's 9am and I'm haven't even brushed my teeth yet. The crazy part is that she calms down and is good the rest of the day. I need some advice- please!! I can tell you that she is definitely showing early signs of separation anxiety. I need to start preventative measures right away. I also need to be able to leave the house for an hour or two in the mornings.
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It sounds like she goes into zoomies mode in morning instead of early evening when most puppies (and human babies often as well!). It can be exhausting, but does eventually go away pretty much.

It sounds like you are already doing the right things..walking her to wear off some energy, diverting with toys, and expen. We actually used a soft sided expen that we could bring puppy next to dining table while we ate since Cassie's expen (actually a small hall bathroom with a gate across but functioned like an expen for us) was pretty far away so we wanted her in same room, but wanted to be able to eat ourselves. Don't think it was necessary, but wanted to share so you know you aren't alone in trying to get normal household things done with a new puppy in house.

Our separation training was done by steady short departures where we left house calmly and returned calmly. I don't think we really tried any of it while we were in the house. She did get put in expen for short times when she was in the nipping people stage, but I am home all day so just kept her in small confined areas near me (our house was a gated fortress for first year...puppy proofed bathroom so she could cling to me when I brushed my teeth etc! Others may have more experience with using expen separation while in the house.

On the vomit/pee upset when put in expen, I think you just have to keep trying until she gets used to it and it becomes a routine. One play activity I found very useful for wearing out some energy is ball chasing...especially if your two kids can throw back and forth between them.

Don't worry..it will get better although at the beginning it seems exhausting to keep puppy occupied during these crazy bursts of energy.
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Thanks for the reassurance Cassandra! It's nice to know I am on the right track but it stresses everyone out when she's so upset. The kids feel bad, but I keep assuring them that she will figure out our routine and settle as she gets a bit older.

Our house is really open, so it's hard to block off space and that's why the ex pen is so important. She does fine in it at other points in the day, she's snoozing in there right now. I even went upstairs and took a shower- finally, and she yipped a bit but mostly when I was making enough noise that she could hear me.

She pooped twice in the house today, which she hasn't done yet. Both times were when she was off leash in the house. The frustrating part about that is that I had just taken her outside because she looked like she needed to go, but didn't. She just would just lay on the grass. I don't know if it has anything to do with the rain or not, but that's a new one today.
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Thanks for the reassurance Cassandra! It's nice to know I am on the right track but it stresses everyone out when she's so upset. The kids feel bad, but I keep assuring them that she will figure out our routine and settle as she gets a bit older.

Our house is really open, so it's hard to block off space and that's why the ex pen is so important. She does fine in it at other points in the day, she's snoozing in there right now. I even went upstairs and took a shower- finally, and she yipped a bit but mostly when I was making enough noise that she could hear me.

She pooped twice in the house today, which she hasn't done yet. Both times were when she was off leash in the house. The frustrating part about that is that I had just taken her outside because she looked like she needed to go, but didn't. She just would just lay on the grass. I don't know if it has anything to do with the rain or not, but that's a new one today.
The ex-pen or create is the right place for her when she is over-wound. And (and I know this is hard, especially with the kids) the sorrier you all feel for her, the more she is likely to keep it up. I wouldn't really call this separation anxiety. She's an over-exited baby who wants her way. The more you can TOTALLY ignore her when she's like this, the sooner she will stop.

She is WAY to young to be given any sort of freedom in the house if you want her to potty train quickly. The more accidents, the longer it will take. At this age, she needs to either be confined to a small space or tethered to you. It's all about creating good habits.


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The ex-pen or create is the right place for her when she is over-wound. And (and I know this is hard, especially with the kids) the sorrier you all feel for her, the more she is likely to keep it up. I wouldn't really call this separation anxiety. She's an over-exited baby who wants her way. The more you can TOTALLY ignore her when she's like this, the sooner she will stop.

She is WAY to young to be given any sort of freedom in the house if you want her to potty train quickly. The more accidents, the longer it will take. At this age, she needs to either be confined to a small space or tethered to you. It's all about creating good habits.
We'll keep putting her in the ex pen when she is crazy. I'll just help the kids understand that we need to ignore it.

As for the freedom, yes that was totally our fault. She won't be off leash again unless we are sitting with her and playing. I feel bad about putting her in the ex pen because she enjoys following me around and I enjoy having her around, but in the end it will be better.
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Here is a tip that works for us, it might work for you!

Ricky suffers from separation anxiety occasionally. We have learned that if we put him in his crate and cover it completely with a blanket he quiets down immediately. If this works for you, you will be able to leave the house for a couple of hours or just take a shower. Try it, it might work for you. Ricky sleeps in his crate in our bedroom at night. We always cover the crate with a blanket, birdcage style. He sleeps soundly all night in his little doggie cave.

And, Yoshi is a VERY young puppy so wild energy is not uncommon. Ricky would get the zoomies several times a day when he was young. Today, at three years old, he goes on a tear maybe only twice a day and for maybe only five minutes or less,,,,,,but he is literally bouncing off the walls!

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We'll keep putting her in the ex pen when she is crazy. I'll just help the kids understand that we need to ignore it.

As for the freedom, yes that was totally our fault. She won't be off leash again unless we are sitting with her and playing. I feel bad about putting her in the ex pen because she enjoys following me around and I enjoy having her around, but in the end it will be better.
Yup. The more you confine/supervise now, the sooner she will be trustworthy and earn more freedom! But that is stillMONTHS away at this point!


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I learned very quickly with mine (he's 12 weeks today) is that he has to stay asleep in my room until the kids are on the bus. I don't have time in the morning to get him out and deal with the zoomies, biting, etc. and get the kids ready. We use his crate with a cover over it. I leave the front up so there's some air flow, but face it away from my bed so he can't see me. If he starts to whine (which he only did the 1st 2 nights), I would clear my throat and he'd settle back down.

He sounds exactly like your puppy in every way...I was just going to ask some of these same questions!

Good luck! I feel your pain!

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My Puppy does this too in the morning, not full on zoomies but he get really nippy and playful.
Not so good when I have to work at 8am. I typically wake up earlier with him to give him a solid 20 mins of Duke Needs. I take to out to go the washroom, feed him breakfast, do some training and then we go back to the room and he plays and bites things while I get ready.
I have found it helpful to have one of his chew toys that he loves and set him on my lap while I get ready!! He calms downs when he is sitting on me, My boyfriend says that I just have a calming effect on him! I try and not play with him too much other then the odd throw of a toy to chase.

I know having children would make this process even more hectic! Kids have energy and so do puppies! Right now Duke is my old fur baby, so it's a little different.
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