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Lonnie is 14 weeks and he is so sweet but def a little rascal. I am home and take him out almost hourly!! Is it normal for pups this age to still have multiple accidents??? Today I took him out first thing to pee and poop and then he came in and 5 min later popped on the floor??? Oy!!
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Lonnie is 14 weeks and he is so sweet but def a little rascal. I am home and take him out almost hourly!! Is it normal for pups this age to still have multiple accidents??? Today I took him out first thing to pee and poop and then he came in and 5 min later popped on the floor??? Oy!!
Training a puppy is ALL about preventing accidents. That means that it is up to the owner to confine them unless you can supervise EYES ON, EVERY SECOND. Your puppy does not really understand that he is being taken outside to potty. If he happens to go, it is a happy accident, and you have a "party" with him. But if he doesn't go, it only means that he didn't need to go right then. He doesn't understand that that was his "opportunity".

How easy puppies are to train has a lot to do with how well the breeder potty trained them. All of mine came from breeders who put a lot of time and effort into litter box training them. So they understood completely to use a litter box if it was close to them when the urge it. That DIDN'T mean that they wouldn't have a mistake if the urge hit on the other side of the kitchen though! It was my job to make sure that at the first signs, I scooped them up and either brought them to the litter box or outside.

Your puppy will learn, but he will learn MUCH faster if you prevent him from having accidents as much as possible.


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Ditto to Karen's comments. I wish I could find the link to the guide that I found online and went by religiously. I did copy it, but the author did not want it shared without it being attributed to him and I didn't save his name, but an important part of what it said was ... after waking in the morning carry him/her to the spot, after naps walk him/her to the spot, and what I found to be VERY important - 5-10 min after a drink and 20-30 after meals - walk him/her to the spot. If he doesn't go when you take him out, take him back to his crate and try again in 10 minutes, and like Karen said "have a party" and really praise/treat him. I kept Oreo confined at all times in the beginning unless I knew for certain that he had been successful with his pottying, and then just gave him freedom for maybe 20 minutes. I learned his behaviors that indicated he had to go, and would take him out immediately. I also learned that the 20 minutes after meals didn't apply to him at breakfast. He only had 2 poop accidents, but they were both within a minute or two of his finishing breakfast, so after that I would scoop him up and take him out as soon as he finished his last bite. If you are vigilant, you will learn his schedule, and will be able to head off accidents before they happen, and that speeds up the training process tremendously. Of course, it really is you who becomes trained initially, but once you are trained, he will follow suit. Good luck!
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Tux used to have to go outside every 45 minutes, or right after excessive activity. It wore me out, but as he got older, each month would allow me a few more minutes in between trips. (My health improved because I was up constantly taking him out). I had pee pads down and kept him in his exercise pen when I couldn't have constant eyes on him. They want to please you, so don't scold a young puppy for having a teeny weeny bladder that won't hold a lot. Be happy whenever he goes potty outside even though you are exhausted. LOL

He is now a year and 3 months. I feed him four times a day (7 AM, 10:30 AM, 4:30 PM, and 7:30 PM) and take him out right after feeding. He is on such a regular schedule, he never has accidents. He eats thawed frozen diet of 78% meat and bone product.
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Great advice. He is confined to my kitchen and I also crate him. He hates being in the crate and cries/barks when I put him in the crate and I'm in the same room.

I have 3 kids so it's a bit difficult to keep my eyes on him every second. We will have s few good days and then a few with accidents. We're both doing our best...


Thank you for the feedback. I will def try to be better at keeping an eye on him. Hard to tell if he's peeing as he doesn't lift a leg...
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Good luck with the potty training. If you aren't already doing so, reward him with attention/treats whenever he's quiet in the crate, and ignore him whenever he cries/barks . . .

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Great advice. He is confined to my kitchen and I also crate him. He hates being in the crate and cries/barks when I put him in the crate and I'm in the same room.

I have 3 kids so it's a bit difficult to keep my eyes on him every second. We will have s few good days and then a few with accidents. We're both doing our best...


Thank you for the feedback. I will def try to be better at keeping an eye on him. Hard to tell if he's peeing as he doesn't lift a leg...
Try an ex-pen rather than a crate for confinement during the day when you can't keep your eye on him. With 3 kids, of course you can't keep your eye on him all the time! That's what confinement is for. And most young puppies don't lift a leg, so that's not unusual at all.


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I remember it being so hard to tell whether Oreo had peed cause he was so fluffy and so close to the ground! I did finally notice that his tail bobbles up and down a little when he's going, so that was my sign that he had success. In addition to having my kitchen gated off, I also used a pen for Oreo. I still use the pen if I am leaving the house, or am going to be in another part of the house for a prolonged period. He only had one accident in his pen, and that was my husband's fault for having let him gulp a bunch of water right before he put him in his pen, and not going back 20 minutes later to take him out. You do have to pay really close attention to their intake, and time your potty trips accordingly.
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Expen and pee pads are a life saver here too

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I am currently housebreaking Migo so I think I'll give my input as well. You have gotten great advice so far though!

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Great advice. He is confined to my kitchen and I also crate him. He hates being in the crate and cries/barks when I put him in the crate and I'm in the same room.
Migo used to do this, but from the moment I brought him home I ignored him and never gave in (unless he had to potty at night). We've had him for about two weeks now and he is much better. If he does cry, it's only an initial whimper and he stops. If you have given him attention for whining or barking before it will just take longer for him to catch on, but he will with consistency. Eventually the puppy will do something inside his crate to keep himself busy instead of relying on you. It helps to tire him out before crating. Otherwise, he's bored and a bully stick only helps so much.

The pen is really great for indoor potty training. Migo's breeder had already started that for us, and he never had an accident in his pen. The reason why I switched to crate and tether was that I wanted Migo to eventually go only outside and the pen made it more difficult for me to supervise him. I would catch him after he peed on his ugodog, but my goal was to train him to go on command. I think it's definitely worth to give the tether/crate a try if you want Lonnie to potty only outside (we haven't had an accident since). If you like the pee pad/ugodog then the pen is the way to go for now.


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