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Shoulder issues myself and getting a puppy??

Hi, we are really keen to get a Havanese but I have issues with my shoulder and neck - basically hypermobility and muscular tension. Is it likely that I will make my shoulder and neck a lot worse caring for a Havanese Puppy? Or is it possible to train them young and prevent such problems? I have read about rotator cuff tears etc and it's worrying me now if a puppy is a silly idea with a pre existing shoulder issue
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I am sorry to hear about your health issues.

Even though Shama only weighs eight and a half pounds, I have noticed occasional shoulder and elbow pain when picking her up out of her ex pen. It seems likely that you could irritate your injuries by picking up and/or holding your puppy/dog.

That said, however, I will mention that one trainer told me that I shouldn't be picking Shama up and carrying her so often. Her thought was that Shama should be treated like bigger dogs who can't be picked up all the time. She should walk out of her ex pen, cross our deck, and walk down the steps in order to go potty.

I was also amazed when I realized slip leashes like this one exist:

https://www.mendotaproducts.com/coll...nt=28653986113

It's so much easier to slip this leash over Shama's head than it is to clip a traditional leash onto a traditional collar, especially given that she is in a long coat. I loved showing this leash to my arthritic mother-in-law. She can very easily put it on Shama and take her outside to go potty.

All that to say there are accommodations one can make for a dog owner's physical limitations.

Good luck with your decision!

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Hi ShamaMama, thank you for replying to my post. Can I ask how you have found lead walking - does Shama pull much and has that caused any shoulder issues? Did you have shoulder issues before having her?
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Hi catgirl. I have issues with my back and getting a puppy definitely gave me some days of more pain. There was a lot more of a need to bend, lift, get down on the floor, climb in and out of her expen, etc. That being said, I feel that every extra ache and pain was totally worth it to have my Molly. I am sure that you can come up with some creative ideas for caring for your puppy that will lessen the strain on your shoulder. As far as walking goes, I use the Walk In Sync harness. It has both a front and back clip option and is helpful to train your dog not to pull on leash. Good luck with your decision!



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I had shoulder impingement issues from volleyball, but physical therapy had helped. I don't know how many shoulder issues have resulted from having Shama. I recently suffered an elbow injury (shoveling snow off the deck fast and hitting a NAIL!) It has really irritated my elbow to reach in for and pick up Shama. So I'm thinking having a Havanese could irritate pre-existing joint and neck conditions. Maybe a physical therapist could help you reach for and pick up your dog in the least painful manner. Despite all of our obedience classes, I have not patiently practiced healing with Shama enough to get her to stop pulling on the leash, so she does pull, but I've never noticed the small amount that she weighs causing me any physical irritation. Any physical pain Shama causes me is worth it to me, however, because I LOVE her SO MUCH! Good luck with your decision!

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Hi catgirl. I have issues with my back and getting a puppy definitely gave me some days of more pain. There was a lot more of a need to bend, lift, get down on the floor, climb in and out of her expen, etc. That being said, I feel that every extra ache and pain was totally worth it to have my Molly. I am sure that you can come up with some creative ideas for caring for your puppy that will lessen the strain on your shoulder. As far as walking goes, I use the Walk In Sync harness. It has both a front and back clip option and is helpful to train your dog not to pull on leash. Good luck with your decision!
It might also be possible/ feasible (if both shoulders are an issue) to do what they do for running - i.e. attach the leash around your waist. It would probably take some training to ensure that the puppy is not pulling at first, but then it saves your shoulders most of the time and you can still grab the leash to stop the pup/ etc when needed. An alternative that helps reduce the strain (but won't eliminate pulling on the shoulder) is to drape the leash over your shoulder/ across your back. My mom's scotty has a tendency to pull when he's excited so I would usually hold the leash handle in my left hand, put the leash itself over my left shoulder and around my back so that it came around me on the right side so that when he pulled it wouldn't jerk on my arm and I also wouldn't have to keep my arm tight, the pressure would be taken by my back (I don't know if that's explained well).
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Hi ShamaMama, thank you for replying to my post. Can I ask how you have found lead walking - does Shama pull much and has that caused any shoulder issues? Did you have shoulder issues before having her?
Walking on leash is a trained behavior. Dogs that pull haven't been trained not to. There is no reason for ANY dog, even one a LOT larger than a Havanese to hurt your shoulder walking on leash. But they DO need to be trained first. There are front attach harnesses that can help a LOT with pulling until the dog learns better. Another alternative is a leash that clips to your belt. That puts absolutely NO pressure on tour shoulder.

It does sound, however, like you would be better off getting an older, well rained dog, like a retired breeder rather than a puppy.


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I have extensive back problems and I just got my Molly a couple of months ago. I have found creative work arounds such as puppy stairs I trained her to climb so I can put her leash on and off without bending to the floor. Now that's her signal that she needs to go out. She's four months old and she's house broken! We put her crate on a tote so it's higher for me. Now she can jump in and out. We play "gripper fetch" to help burn off her energy. I'm sure you'll come up with ways to compensate; just be creative.

I feel sorry for people who don't have dogs. I hear they have to pick up food they drop on the floor.
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