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5 months old- update and questions!

Hi all! The love of my life, aka Coco, just turned five months on the 12th! So far, he has been incredible. Upon hitting the five month mark, I've noticed a few things and with Coco being my first puppy I'm wondering if this is normal/if there's any advice anyone can offer.

First, I can't seem to find a chew that Coco actually likes long term. I'll give him something new, whether it be a bully stick, a Himalayan chew, antler, etc... and he'll be SUPER into it to the point that he will growl as to not be disturbed but then after spending a chunk of time on it he completely loses interest the next day. I have so many half chewed chews around it's getting crazy. Has anyone else found their Havanese to be picky in this way? With food its completely the opposite- he will eat absolutely anything and within 10 seconds his bowl will be clean when it's feeding time.

Second- I feel like he might be regressing with his potty training. Up until last week he was really starting to get the hang of the pee pad and then going outside but recently he's been having many more accidents inside. I find that if I'm watching him he will go on the pad but if I step away- even to use the bathroom myself or get something from the kitchen- in that short period he'll go on the rug! Any suggestions on how to curb this/is this normal behavior for five months?

Last, he is itching like crazy! He's been itchy since I brought him home but he has been checked out consistently for hot spots and ticks and flees to no avail. I currently have him on Zignature dog food and off of chicken but I'm not sure if it's really making a difference.

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Tux was the same way with chews. He began losing interest for a day or two and seemed to take more interest in a new cow tail. When he ate them, he had to poop twice as often and twice as much. I noticed as the cow tail treats were increased, he began throwing up occasionally. I eliminated them entirely. No more vomiting. He occasionally picks up his antler or his spanking clean marrow bone, but only for a two or three minutes. He began chewing and trying to eat his stuffed toys. I removed the ones he thought could be digested. He is a year and a half old, and the chewing seems to be abating. I suspect it is linked to boredom.

As far as potty training: Make sure you don't scold accidents. Clean up immediately. Use Nature's Miracle to eliminate any and all odor. Take Coco outside immediately after an accident. If he goes again, sing his praises. If not, take Coco outside every 30 to 45 min. If he is going more than that, have him checked for a urinary infection. As his bladder matures, he will need to go less and less often. Tux is up to 5 or 6 hours.

Tux eats Primal Raw nuggets that are kept frozen. I thaw four bricks and give them to him 7:30, 10:30, 4:30, and 8:30 with a tiny bit of raw goat milk. No stomach upsets, no itching, and tiny hard little rabbit sized poopy pellets once a day. (no waste in his food so very little poops). With any processed dog food, you risk ingredients that might not be so good for the pup. Read up on Primal. It's expensive, but not compared to vet bills.
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Thanks so much for the reply!! I have been reading about Primal Raw and perhaps it would be a good idea to have him try it... might help with the skin issues. Specifically which do you feed your little one? I was looking on dog food advisor and saw that the chicken, beef and lamb flavors were rated significantly lower than the others so I'm just curious. Thanks!!

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Thanks so much for the reply!! I have been reading about Primal Raw and perhaps it would be a good idea to have him try it... might help with the skin issues. Specifically which do you feed your little one? I was looking on dog food advisor and saw that the chicken, beef and lamb flavors were rated significantly lower than the others so I'm just curious. Thanks!!
Tux has had the beef, lamb, chicken, duck. We threw out the turkey & sardine. It was too stinky. I figure if he develops any food allergies, we can switch to venison, pheasant, rabbit and pork for alternatives. For now, he is doing quite well rotating the first four.

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Can't help on the chews. We are limited on what my dogs can have as chews because of Kodi's allergies. Basically, it's moose antlers or nothing around here. So sometimes they chew them, sometimes they don't, but they also don't have any other choices.

As far as the pottying is concerend, Tux's mom gave you some good avice in terms of handling accidents when/if they happen. But the bottom line is that he is still quite a young puppy and clearly isn't ready for the amount of freedom he's been given at this point. Potty trIning isn't always a straight, up-hill path. There are peaks and valleys. The answer is ALWAYS the same if they are having trouble... more supervision and/or confinement. Freedom is earned, not a given, and the closer eye you can keep on them, so you can reinforce good potty habits, the faster they will become truly reliable.


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Completely agree on the confinement or close supervision - I realized when I got Perry that while he was close he would sometimes pee if I left him in the room alone even for a minute. So, it was actually more than just needing closer supervision - for a while it was about keeping him right beside me (leashed or not depending).

Now that he's tethered to me whenever he's out of his crate because of his leg, and most of that time is on the couch, he's kind of funny. He rarely barks when he has to go out but he does start making noises at me and bouncing around... but if I don't get what he's trying to tell me (it's hard to tell the difference between I need to pee/ poop bouncing and grumbling and the I'm hyper bouncing and grumbling) - like last night - he will suddenly stop bouncing and give one very sharp bark (hey mom, pay attention, I need to go out!)
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Thanks both for your replies- you're right about the confinement/supervision... because he was really starting to become reliable I have been slacking on the confinement front but I am learning that "peaks and valleys" certainly seems to be the right description. I confess that when I brought Coco home I was all about keeping him crated but he hated it and never took to it so after a few weeks I gave up. Part of it is that I live in an apartment building with a difficult neighbor and the crying/barking was starting to cause problems with management. He did better in the ex-pen... but it looks like I need to buck up and go back to it.

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Thanks both for your replies- you're right about the confinement/supervision... because he was really starting to become reliable I have been slacking on the confinement front but I am learning that "peaks and valleys" certainly seems to be the right description. I confess that when I brought Coco home I was all about keeping him crated but he hated it and never took to it so after a few weeks I gave up. Part of it is that I live in an apartment building with a difficult neighbor and the crying/barking was starting to cause problems with management. He did better in the ex-pen... but it looks like I need to buck up and go back to it.
We live in a condo also. I had two different ex-pens made out of detachable panels that could be used to make the pens larger or smaller. I had one in the bedroom 3 x 6 next to the bed, and one in the living room 3 x 6 next to my desk. Tux was content to stay in his pen and I got him used to me going out of his sight for longer and longer periods of time (20 seconds to longer gradually). It was not as confining as a kennel, so he adjusted quite nicely to it. I had his pillow (with waterproof slip cover) under the pillow case, on one end, and 3x3 pee pads at the other. You can buy a hospital pad that is the size of a twin bed that fits completely under a 3 x 6 ex-pen if you want. They wash up while a substitute is put in place. It's best to keep down all the time but only for accidents/emergencies. Use the "Lets go for a WALK!!!!" excuse to get out of the pen and go potty outside......What fun!!!! If he can't make it outside without peeing on the floor, pick him up and carry him so he can hold it until you reach the potty place.

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Milo's almost 5months also and I just started the methods taught here... https://youtu.be/mabu1Y6iOj4
He still loves to chew blankets and pillows, so now we've been doing a better job with the 2-step redirecting along with praise praise praise!
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