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Potty Training Still t 4 1/2 Mrs Old...Help!

Hi all-

Sorry I have been absent from the board as I was traveling and trying to get caught up on life.

Ok, so Bocce (boy) turned 4 mos old on 10/4. In general, he does well for me with very little accidents but with my family (husband and teens) he seems to have more. No surprise there as they just don't watch him and read him as well as I do. But if you have advice for what works with family being consistent please share!

However, I made him a make-shift fenced in area on Sunday, using 2 metal puppy pens tied up to our decking. Before using it this way, we would just carry him outside to him pen to go (no fence in yard!) and with the weather changing my hope was to be able to open the screened in porch door and just let him out to go while I stand in the porch by mid-November. Well now he is refusing to pee in there and since Sunday, he has had 3 poop accidents with me inside. What gives?

I also want him to start telling us when he needs to go. No luck with him ringing the bell, help!

Please respond with what worked in potty training your Hav (in detail) and how old was he/she when it was completed?

Thanks so much!
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Still Potty Training at 4 1/2 Months
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This has been covered, so go to the search engine at the top of the page, put in potty training. That should pull up all the threads on the subject. Try "house training", "potty outside", "pee pads", etc.

I know I have a hard time with order of operation when an accident occurs, 1. Take puppy outside 2. Isolate so she/he doesn't see what you are doing 3. Clean up mess.

If puppy sees you clean, they think what they are doing in the house is A-Okay. My tendency is to clean first.

Get family on board for this order of operation, for sure.

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Thanks for your reply. I always do it in that order. At least I know Im doing that right lol

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Four months is still pretty young to expect him to be potty trained. What worked for me was taking Molly outside on a leash to potty. This way I was absolutely sure that she went or not. If she did go, she would get supervised freedom in the house. If she did not go she would go back in her crate or expen. If he is having accidents in the house he is probably been given too much freedom too soon. As Molly matured she did not have to be taken out as frequently and had her area of freedom in the house slowly expanded. I did this using baby gates. She first had access to only tiled areas and little by little she was allowed in carpeted areas. Any time she had accidents I would reevaluate and give less freedom for a while. Potty training is a process and everyone in the household should be on the same page. The more accidents you allow your puppy to have the longer it will take. Good luck!
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I have a similar family situation as you, and found that Jango rarely had potty accidents when I was home, and lots when I was gone. Basically, my teens and husband just didn't focus on him, and I would frequently come home to find a pee stain or poop pile next to the door where we let him out. The poor puppy would go wait by the door, but no one would pay attention to him, and eventually he just couldn't hold it in anymore. I eventually instituted a "Mom's gone" rule: when I left the house he needed to be leashed and one of the kids or Kevin would either put the leash under the chair they were sitting on, or just loop it around their leg, so that when Jango would get up to move away, it was easy for my family to see that he had to go out. That helped a lot. When I was home with him, I kept a log of each time I took him out and what (if anything) he did. If he didn't anything, I kept him leashed next to me, and would take him out maybe 15 minutes later. Honestly, until he was about 7 or 8 months, it seemed like every couple of hours he would have to go potty. Hang in there!
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Love his name! Bocce isn't waiting by the door or telling us in any way that he needs to go. I know his schedule, but I'm curious how and when he will start telling us.

Thanks for the replies, keep them coming lol!
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We have a sort of similar experience with Perry. He doesn't really tell us very strongly when he needs to go out - he does go to the door, but if you're not watching he doesn't let you know in any other ways. The other problem we have is that he still thinks that a mat on the floor is an acceptable pee pad (he's a rescue so not sure if he was taught using cloth pee pads, but I suspect he was). He's not having accidents otherwise, but if he goes to the door and you don't let him out then he will use the mat (only way I know is that he actually then tries to 'cover it up' by grabbing the mat and covering the wet part with the dry part). I thought we were over that, and it was safe to put the mat back down, but he's been on 'leash arrest' (crate rest and tethered to me on a leash the rest of the time) for almost 3 months and just got 'released' and we had another mat 'accident' last week. So, the mats come back up as I try to figure out how to break this habit of his.
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I just have to say that Boccce is just such a cute little guy. I know with my parent dogs they always just went by them. Currently they have two dogs. Maxxie will scratch the door when she wants to go out, and Ginger will whine and go in a circle by the door. It was just what the dogs themselves decided on how to communicate potty time. As others have said it does take time as well, my parents' dogs were both older not potty trained when adopted so it took them even longer then a puppy probably would.
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