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Last minute nerves about travel to pick up the puppy

I just finished going over everything for the hundredth time and thought we were good to go, when something occurred to me. I bought a soft sort of car carrier on Amazon,


, a little while ago, but just now as I was going over the plan for out trip in my mind, I completely second guessed all of it. I read a couple a threads here about not letting the puppy eat and it reminded me I have no idea what Iím doing. Itís a day trip, so I planned to break it up, but heíll definitely need to eat. And I assumed it would be good to give him treats every so often in the car if heís being good in his crate. So, no to that? When he stop for lunch, how long should we wait before traveling again? I was planning to stop about every 2-3 hours to potty.

I just read about the Sleepypod, but itís a little expensive, and I would like to know more about it. Is it more expensive because itís appropriate for plane travel? I donít need something for plane travel at this time because we rarely fly. It might not even matter because I donít know if I could get a Sleepypod delivered in time since it doesnít qualify for Prime.

On Amazon there is more of a booster seat and I know some people use those with small dogs, but can a puppy use one of these if Iím not sure heís worn a harness before? Also, Iím assuming he might sleep a lot and in that case a carrier might be better.

My kids are really excited to buy toys so I was going to take them to pick some out after school this week, but now Iím panicking that I wonít have toys that are engaging enough for a car trip with a potentially scared puppy. And it sounds like treat-toys are out. Any reliable winners I should just order right now?
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He won't be likely to play with toys in the car, and he may not eat even if you offer it to him. I would ask your breeder what you should do about feeding him on the travel day.

Booster seats are about the least safe way to transport any dog other than leaving the dog loose in the car. And a new puppy is DEFINITELY not going to be safe that way, even if you could find a car harness small enough that they couldn't squirm out of it. (Unlikely... many Havanese puppy owners resort to kitten harnesses for the first few weeks, because they are too tiny for dog harnesses. They don't make car harnesses for kittens).

While the Sleepypod is one of the few crash tested softsided carriers, in general, softsided carriers that can be seat belted into place are quite safe, especially for small puppies. I think the one you bought is fine for now. As the puppy grows, you can make choices about what style of car restraint you think is most appropriate for your particular situation. There are a number of threads on this subject on the forum.


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I brought Henry home just under two months ago. Before we left the breeder's, she took him out with the other puppies and let him run around to tire him and to potty. We had a 3 1/2 hour trip home so not all day. I put him in his sleepy pod in the back and he immediately kicked up a big ruckus that was escalating fast. Was going to give him 10 minutes but could only stand about 5. We pulled over and I got in the back and sat next to the sleepy pod. Didn't take him out or say anything, but he then quietened down and immediately fell asleep. When we stopped for gas, he woke up and stayed very quiet so I let him stay there. He then slept the rest of the way home. once home he had dinner and trips out but we were both exhausted and went to bed early. He actually slept 9 (!) hours that first night.

So if you can, try to give him some exercise before you begin your trip. Perhaps when you stop for lunch find a place where you can walk him a bit and play a bit and let him get some more exercise.

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There are several other airline approved (size wise) carriers. I don't (yet) have a sleepypod, though I keep looking at them/ thinking about getting one, but I have a sherpa bag (probably one of the most popular ones) and one that has sides that zip open to give them more space that I use on long flights. The sleepypod is probably a bit safer on car rides, but the sherpa bag and the other one we have both have a strap on one side that you can put the seatbelt through to secure it in the car. I would definitely recommend a bag instead of a harness or booster seat - not only for safety (though that is a huge reason - to protect them in case of an accident AND to prevent them from running off if you had an accident and the door opened) but also for practical reasons -- if he is sick in the car, it's a pain to clean out the carrier but it's easier to do that than to clean it from around your back seat.

Perry gets car sick (still hoping he'll out grow that, but took him on a ride on Saturday and it's still there), so I would also recommend a carrier that the liner comes out - you can put a towel in instead (easier to take out and clean). That's actually why we usually travel with 2 carriers - his sherpa for the car (no liner in it) and the other one for flights (it's got a permanent liner so difficult to clean).
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This is sort of a weird question, but how strong does Havanese puppy throw-up smell? Iím sure diet is a factor. I ask because my son has really bad reflux because of a birth defect so if itís like human throw-up where the smell can make someone else throw-up, I should be prepared for him, too.
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Henry's only thrown up twice. very small quantities, which helps a lot with any smell. I actually didn't smell it at all but of course you're right it depends on what they've eaten. I imagine if they've gotten into something nasty and that's why they're vomiting, it could be very smelly.

Re the sleepy pod, which we've had for two months -

plusses: Relatively safe re Center for Pet Safety
Liner zips out and is machine washable and dry-able
Very well made
can be converted into pet bed by zipping top off
Henry seems comfortable in it and has been excellent in the car. Note: his breeder got all the puppies used to car travel before leaving her. I think that has really helped.

Cons: Expensive
May be too small for full grown Havanese, depending on final size
Doesn't hang well from shoulder if carrying dog in it, the round shape bounces off my hip.

I bought mine from chewy and saved maybe $10.


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This is sort of a weird question, but how strong does Havanese puppy throw-up smell? I’m sure diet is a factor. I ask because my son has really bad reflux because of a birth defect so if it’s like human throw-up where the smell can make someone else throw-up, I should be prepared for him, too.
I have petego with isoflex and the base which attaches to anchors like a child's car seat. Size large and both pieces were around $170 on amazon. An independent evaluation has this and one other as the safest. This one was better for my budget.

The smell probably depends on what puppy has eaten and whether or not he or she takes probiotics. My puppy gets carsick and I can not smell as much as see what happened.

Going to get a puppy is a very exciting thing! Best wishes!


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You will be fine on the way home. I agree with everyone else about getting some exercise before you leave the breeders. We flew home but it was still most of the day. Loki had breakfast with the rest of the puppies at the breeders - we left a couple of hours later so he had time to digest everything. He didn't eat again until we got home because we were traveling. He was fine. I did give him a little water at the airport. If you want to give him a little treat, a piece of the kibble he is used to would work. I suggest not giving him anything new. He cried in the carrier when we left for maybe 10 minutes and then settled down the rest of the way.

I have a Sleepypod Air which I love. I use it in the car and have used it on planes. Loki has been riding in it since he was a puppy and doesn't know anything different. He goes right in and is silent in it unless he needs to go potty. Then he just whines. It has the dark breathable mesh so it is like a den inside. He hovers around 13.5 lbs now. About cost, I think it has been worth it. It gets used at least several times a week and looks brand new. Since it shaped like a duffle bad it is easy to carry. But until you decide if that is what you want - a soft sided carrier like this one with the seat belt loops should be fine for a puppy.




Since the puppy hasn't had all his shots yet, I would be a little hesitant to walk him at a rest stop where there have been other dogs. I would put down a pee pad for him to go on and maybe bring a blanket that you could spread on the ground to let him walk around a bit. Also, Loki wouldn't go on the pee pad at the airport so I put a pee pad in the carrier. He did pee in the carrier just after we landed. (He needed a bit of bath when we got home - have some puppy shampoo handy just in case.)

You will be fine if you stop every few hours for a potty break. He is a puppy so he should sleep a lot. The movement works for Loki like it does for a baby.

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This is sort of a weird question, but how strong does Havanese puppy throw-up smell? Iím sure diet is a factor. I ask because my son has really bad reflux because of a birth defect so if itís like human throw-up where the smell can make someone else throw-up, I should be prepared for him, too.
I think everyone reacts differently to smells, and sometime even the sound can set someone else off. But I haven't ever smelled much more than dog food when on elf my dogs has omitted... unless they have eaten something really gross... LOL!


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I think everyone reacts differently to smells, and sometime even the sound can set someone else off. But I haven't ever smelled much more than dog food when on elf my dogs has omitted... unless they have eaten something really gross... LOL!
Perry throws up a lot (in the car so that's often food, at home if he's been excited and then drinks water, or when he decides to eat grass), but thus far it's never been smelly at all. When he's sick in the car I never know until I open the bag and see it and then even close up the smell is just wet dog food.
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