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Old 12-17-2017, 09:49 PM Thread Starter
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Puppy food question

I didn’t post this in the diet section because it’s more of a temporary puppy food thing, hope that’s okay.

Our breeder recommended a specific brand of kibble mixed with a little bit of wet canned food. We don’t have access to the brand so the breeder gave us some and we transitioned to Merrick puppy kibble and canned food.

Our puppy didn’t really eat well at first, even with the breeder’sfood, so it took a while for me to figure out that I don’t think he likes the wet food we are mixing in. Sometimes he’ll act hungry and go crazy for treats but then he won’t eat his meal. I figured out if I barely use any of the wet food he’ll eat it, but I think that defeats the purpose of adding it. I’m still researching food, so I may change in the next month or two, but right now I’m wondering if anyone can suggest a decent canned food for puppies that I can try to get in the next day or two so I can see if he likes it better.

Also, do I need to “transition” the canned food or is that just for kibble?

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Dogs, and even puppies, won't starve themselves if they are otherwise healthy. Find a food that YOU think is appropriate for him, (you will get as many suggestions, some with militant supporters, as there are Havanese on this group... the decision is ultimately yours) and then, unless you think it's not agreeing with his digestive track, STICK WITH IT. Put it down, and wait 10 minutes. A healthy dog can easily eat his meal in under one minute, so 10 minutes is AMPLE time. If he doesn't start eating and stick with it for that period of time, pick it up and put it away. Do NOT offer it again before the next meal time. No treats, no nothing. Do the same thing at the next meal... and the next. He could skip for a day, or even a bit longer. Assuming he's healthy, he WILL give in.

Havanese are EXCEEDINGLY good at talking their owners into the idea that they are "picky eaters" and need to be coaxed with increasingly "better" options. If you fall into that trap, they can keep it going indefinitely. "Just say no".

Kodi, as an "only" went through a "picky stage" as a puppy, and based on good advice here and from his breeder, I hardened my heart and waited him out. Pixel did it a TINY bit. Panda, who came into a multiple dog house, where there was always someone willing to eat anything she left, NEVER played the "picky" game.
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Dogs, and even puppies, won't starve themselves if they are otherwise healthy. Find a food that YOU think is appropriate for him, (you will get as many suggestions, some with militant supporters, as there are Havanese on this group... the decision is ultimately yours) and then, unless you think it's not agreeing with his digestive track, STICK WITH IT. Put it down, and wait 10 minutes. A healthy dog can easily eat his meal in under one minute, so 10 minutes is AMPLE time. If he doesn't start eating and stick with it for that period of time, pick it up and put it away. Do NOT offer it again before the next meal time. No treats, no nothing. Do the same thing at the next meal... and the next. He could skip for a day, or even a bit longer. Assuming he's healthy, he WILL give in.



Havanese are EXCEEDINGLY good at talking their owners into the idea that they are "picky eaters" and need to be coaxed with increasingly "better" options. If you fall into that trap, they can keep it going indefinitely. "Just say no".



Kodi, as an "only" went through a "picky stage" as a puppy, and based on good advice here and from his breeder, I hardened my heart and waited him out. Pixel did it a TINY bit. Panda, who came into a multiple dog house, where there was always someone willing to eat anything she left, NEVER played the "picky" game.


Thatís exactly the same advice I read in the Diane Lumb book. Give them an inch and they will take a mile.

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Interesting, it never would have occurred to me. Of course, I know heíll eventually eat if he doesnít like it, I wasnít worried about him starving, I just didnít see it as manipulation. I assumed he just didnít like it because it was a different meat than what he ate with the breeder, and I figured since I need to order more food Iíd just give him something he might like better. NaÔvetť!

Thanks! Iíll just stick with it until Iím ready to make a permanent change. All of the reading and comparing is a lot of work to do twice.
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Interesting, it never would have occurred to me. Of course, I know he’ll eventually eat if he doesn’t like it, I wasn’t worried about him starving, I just didn’t see it as manipulation. I assumed he just didn’t like it because it was a different meat than what he ate with the breeder, and I figured since I need to order more food I’d just give him something he might like better. NaÔvetť!

Thanks! I’ll just stick with it until I’m ready to make a permanent change. All of the reading and comparing is a lot of work to do twice.
They're like little kids. If you let THEM make the diet decisions, they'll end up with a (figurative) diet of cake, pizza and ice cream.

And it's certainly not WILLFUL "manipulation". But dogs do what works for them. And if they can work the puppy dog eyes and the "pitiful starving puppy" thing... They will.


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They're like little kids. If you let THEM make the diet decisions, they'll end up with a (figurative) diet of cake, pizza and ice cream.
Totally true! If Perry was given a choice he would go for my landlord's dog's food - she gets the local equivalent of pedigree (or an even cheaper supermarket brand). The first thing Perry does when we go out in the morning (after she's been fed) is scour around her bowl to see if she might have dropped a piece somewhere! I'm convinced that if I set his food and hers down side by side he would scarf down hers first, no question. He's not picky about his, he likes it and eats it fine, but his is the nutritionally sound stuff and hers is the cake and ice cream.
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Loki eats what I give him. But I have spoiled him by how I feed him. The first few days I fed him like you - dry kibble with wet food mixed in. He ate in 30 seconds then looked at me for more. I knew he was getting enough but wanted him to slow down to give himself enough time to get full - I figured just like us the slower he ate he would feel fuller. I started feeding him his kibble in either a Planet Tuff Mazee Ball or a puzzle ball while I drank my first cup of coffee.





I then fed him his wet food in a kong.



He seemed much more satisfied so I still feed him that way. He is not a heavy chewer so I am still using my original puppy kongs. I also have a Kong wobbler that he likes for kibble. He had to grow into the wobbler. I also put frozen soup vegtables - peas, carrots, green beans - in the Mazee for snacks. I have even put pop corn in it. Loki also gets half a scrambled egg on the weekend, also whatever fruits (except grapes) and vegetables we are having. He likes most of them.

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Loki eats what I give him. But I have spoiled him by how I feed him. The first few days I fed him like you - dry kibble with wet food mixed in. He ate in 30 seconds then looked at me for more. I knew he was getting enough but wanted him to slow down to give himself enough time to get full - I figured just like us the slower he ate he would feel fuller. I started feeding him his kibble in either a Planet Tuff Mazee Ball or a puzzle ball while I drank my first cup of coffee.





I then fed him his wet food in a kong.



He seemed much more satisfied so I still feed him that way. He is not a heavy chewer so I am still using my original puppy kongs. I also have a Kong wobbler that he likes for kibble. He had to grow into the wobbler. I also put frozen soup vegtables - peas, carrots, green beans - in the Mazee for snacks. I have even put pop corn in it. Loki also gets half a scrambled egg on the weekend, also whatever fruits (except grapes) and vegetables we are having in his bowl. He likes most of them.
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