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Comfort and sleeping arrangements for new puppy

Hi,

I just joined this forum a couple of days ago, but I've been reading and learning so much! It's very helpful for a soon-to-be-first-time puppy parent (4-5 more weeks!).

I have a couple of questions about sleeping and crating for the new puppy...

1. Our breeder suggested we use a plastic crate that can put on our bedside table for our puppy's first few nights home, and so that we can have the puppy near us for whatever we're doing around the house. We've got that all set, but we also have a Richel expandable pen downstairs (main living area) with a litter box and wire crate inside...we're thinking that's where the dog will sleep more long-term.

-So how long should we keep the puppy in our room before transitioning him to sleep downstairs? A few days, weeks, months?
-And how should we do the transition so that it goes smoothly?
-If we have the puppy sleep in the plastic crate at night by our bed, and the wire crate in the pen during the day, will that be confusing as to which spot is his "bed"?

2. For a comfort stuffed animal for the new puppy...what size would you recommend? Something small that they can hold in their mouth, or something bigger that they can cuddle with?

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I think that if your plan is for the dog to sleep downstairs, you are setting yourself uo for problems to let him get used to sleeping in your room. When we first brought Kodi home, the plan was for him to sleep in his pen down stairs. (DH didn’t want a dog, let alone a dog in the bed room! LOL!) so for the first week, my son and I took turns sleeping on the couch near him. After that, he was fine. (He was actually fine the first week too, it just made US worry less!!!)

Then we remodeled our house when Kodi was w, and he has slept in our room with us, in his crate, ever since. When the girls joined the family, Dave “The dog hater” was already fully on-board, and there was never even a question that they would sleep anywhere but in our room. They cuddle on the bed with us before bed, then go into their crates with a “good night cookie”. We don’t hear a peep from them before 7 in the morning.

(And every once in a while, we’ll let one of them stay in the bed with us... usually Panad, since she’s the one who always wants to. 😉
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When my puppy first came home she slept in a wire crate next to my bed. After a couple weeks I tried to move the crate to a spare bedroom because I thought it would be less disruptive to sleep to have her in another room. Boy was I wrong! She just cried and cried. Once I put the crate back in my room she did not make a peep. I agree that you should start your puppy off in the location you intend to keep them in. I have an upstairs crate and a downstairs crate and it does not confuse the dog at all.

P.S. My last dog slept downstairs in a crate in the kitchen and that worked out fine as well. I also slept downstairs for a while after I first brought my puppy home.
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Henry has been sleeping in his crate on table next to my bed since I got him. I like being able to see him so i've left the table there.

But lately after we come in after his last potty he seems a little reluctant to go upstairs and heads over to his pen in the kitchen. Does he want to spend the night there?

I encourage him upstairs and after that initial resistance he heads up. we cuddle a bit in bed and then he doesn't make a sound once in his crate.

I like having him upstairs and haven't wanted to let him stay in the kitchen overnight. But I feel bad if he'd really rather stay downstairs.

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Shama has slept in our dining room (within 2x6 ex pen) since we brought her home. We camped in the living room for a few days but then went down the hall to our bedroom. She's been fine. When we travel, we take the pen with us, and she has no problem sleeping there.

She has several small stuffed animals (dog toys) in her pen. Sometimes we find her curled around one or sleeping with her head on one. I don't think you need anything big. If you put a blanket in her pen, it can also be small. Shama lies on a folded-up blanket (or in fluffy bed or in bed within crate - she has options) but never pulls it open or moves it around or goes under it. She never goes under anything, in fact.

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Here is a link to some photos of Shama in her pen:

http://www.havaneseforum.com/8-puppy...er-ex-pen.html
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Henry has been sleeping in his crate on table next to my bed since I got him. I like being able to see him so i've left the table there.

But lately after we come in after his last potty he seems a little reluctant to go upstairs and heads over to his pen in the kitchen. Does he want to spend the night there?

I encourage him upstairs and after that initial resistance he heads up. we cuddle a bit in bed and then he doesn't make a sound once in his crate.

I like having him upstairs and haven't wanted to let him stay in the kitchen overnight. But I feel bad if he'd really rather stay downstairs.
I think it's more likely that, like a little boy, he doesn't really want to go to bed AT ALL! LOL!

If you want him in your room, keep him there. Why not "sweeten the pot" with a tiny bedtime cookie?
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I think that if your plan is for the dog to sleep downstairs, you are setting yourself uo for problems to let him get used to sleeping in your room. When we first brought Kodi home, the plan was for him to sleep in his pen down stairs. (DH didn’t want a dog, let alone a dog in the bed room! LOL!) so for the first week, my son and I took turns sleeping on the couch near him. After that, he was fine. (He was actually fine the first week too, it just made US worry less!!!)

Then we remodeled our house when Kodi was w, and he has slept in our room with us, in his crate, ever since. When the girls joined the family, Dave “The dog hater” was already fully on-board, and there was never even a question that they would sleep anywhere but in our room. They cuddle on the bed with us before bed, then go into their crates with a “good night cookie”. We don’t hear a peep from them before 7 in the morning.

(And every once in a while, we’ll let one of them stay in the bed with us... usually Panad, since she’s the one who always wants to. 😉
I agree with Karen - start where you want to finish. I had initially (for about 2 hours) thought that we'd have Perry in another room, but then his first night he was very upset there and so I moved him to the bedroom (yes I know we could have dealt with it and kept him in the other room - but a combination of jetlag, not wanting to disturb everyone else in the house, him being a rescue (his life had already been so disrupted) and mostly me needing sleep (see jetlag) meant that it was just easier to move him to the bedroom beside my bed). At my Mom's house when we're in the US his crate is beside my side of the bed (logistically it's the only place it fits) but in our house in Kampala it's on the other side of the bedroom. He's fine either place. Now he sometimes spends time in his crate in the bedroom when no one is there - so he doesn't NEED someone nearby if he's in his crate, but because he's on crate rest right now and spends most of the day in his crate we do move it out into the living room with us during the day.
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Ok, you guys have convinced me that it's best to start him sleeping downstairs since that's where he will be long-term. I will sleep down there for at least the first few nights while he adjusts. We will hopefully have a (human) baby in the next year or two, so that's why we don't want the dog sleeping in our room.

ShamaMama - your set up is similar to ours! Love the picture of Shama cozied in the little alley by the crate.

Karen - that's so funny about the "dog hater's" change of heart!
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We are a little different. I started Loki in a crate beside our bed. After 2 weeks of no sleep, because I woke up when he moved or he woke when I moved, downstairs to his crate like Shama's we went. It had a bed and his pee pad in it. I covered the end with the bed with a blanket at bed time and he never fussed at all. That is until about 4:30 when he would start crying. We tried for months to get him to sleep longer - taking him out to pee (even though he had a pee pad) with no talking and then putting him back, letting him cry, whine, bark it out. Nothing worked. One morning he went on and on for 3 hours straight. We were exhausted. At Thanksgiving, I took him to my sister's with me and let him sleep in the bed. He slept until 8:00 a.m. He never went back in the crate. Now it is just used as a place for the UGODog! I leave him in the dog proofed family room, with the crate and UGODog, and the connected kitchen while we go to work. It has all worked out but I am sorry that he isn't better crate trained. I worry about if he has to stay at the vet, etc.


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We are a little different. I started Loki in a crate beside our bed. After 2 weeks of no sleep, because I woke up when he moved or he woke when I moved, downstairs to his crate like Shama's we went. It had a bed and his pee pad in it. I covered the end with the bed with a blanket at bed time and he never fussed at all. That is until about 4:30 when he would start crying. We tried for months to get him to sleep longer - taking him out to pee (even though he had a pee pad) with no talking and then putting him back, letting him cry, whine, bark it out. Nothing worked. One morning he went on and on for 3 hours straight. We were exhausted. At Thanksgiving, I took him to my sister's with me and let him sleep in the bed. He slept until 8:00 a.m. He never went back in the crate. Now it is just used as a place for the UGODog! I leave him in the dog proofed family room, with the crate and UGODog, and the connected kitchen while we go to work. It has all worked out but I am sorry that he isn't better crate trained. I worry about if he has to stay at the vet, etc.
Yeah, putting a pee pad in a crate often doesn't work well, because the dog doesn't want to eliminate so close to their bed. You are actually lucky that it worked that way... Some puppies who DO use a pee pad so close to their bed then associate the crate and bed as an "OK potty spot", and then you have a BIG problem.

an ex-pen is the smallest place I'd put bot a bed AND a potty. (of whatever kind you choose)


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