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So, Oliver is 16 weeks old on Sunday. We tried to train him on an indoor potty tray, and really did not take to it. Even now, SOMETIMES he'll poop on it, usually he poops somewhere else in his ex pen. I do make sure not to let him roam the house around the time he's going to need to go, so really, he only goes on the tarp I have under the ex-pen.

Peeing. He wasn't learning the tray. Just peeing in the ex-pen and sloshing through it with his feet. Not good. Then we discovered he preferred the grass outside, regardless of the weather. He can hold it a number of hours, including overnight now. I take him out every 2-3 hours during the day but he's pretty good about indicating that he has to go. We haven't had a pee accident in weeks, and he will occasionally go on the potty tray if he really has to and we don't get to him in time. He's never peed on the carpet.

Is this really unusual? He sometimes poops on the tray, never poops outside. I added a second tray which helps a little, but I wonder if he only does it because there is less space in the ex-pen. I thought poop would be easier in terms of training, but I guess not. It's better because poop is more predictable, but I'm kind of at a loss as to how to proceed. Is this something that. he'll eventually get or should I try something different?
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So, Oliver is 16 weeks old on Sunday. We tried to train him on an indoor potty tray, and really did not take to it. Even now, SOMETIMES he'll poop on it, usually he poops somewhere else in his ex pen. I do make sure not to let him roam the house around the time he's going to need to go, so really, he only goes on the tarp I have under the ex-pen.

Peeing. He wasn't learning the tray. Just peeing in the ex-pen and sloshing through it with his feet. Not good. Then we discovered he preferred the grass outside, regardless of the weather. He can hold it a number of hours, including overnight now. I take him out every 2-3 hours during the day but he's pretty good about indicating that he has to go. We haven't had a pee accident in weeks, and he will occasionally go on the potty tray if he really has to and we don't get to him in time. He's never peed on the carpet.

Is this really unusual? He sometimes poops on the tray, never poops outside. I added a second tray which helps a little, but I wonder if he only does it because there is less space in the ex-pen. I thought poop would be easier in terms of training, but I guess not. It's better because poop is more predictable, but I'm kind of at a loss as to how to proceed. Is this something that. he'll eventually get or should I try something different?
I'm not completely sure, but I think if there's enough room for him to poop somewhere else, that's the problem. I will say mine never pooped on the indoor potty. However, he did try a couple of times and missed. Mine is kind of particular about poop, and it wasn't an issue worth pushing for us because he poops on a very regular schedule, once in the morning and once at night. He just holds it until he's taken outside.

I think you're on the right track with the less space theory. The point is to make it small enough so that there is only enough space for his crate and his potty tray. Since he won't want to go potty in his crate/bed, the only space left for him to go is on the potty tray.

I'm not sure about the time table training it this way. I started late on indoor potty, but my puppy had been paper trained by the breeder and was already trying to pee anytime my kids left a piece of paper on the floor, so he took to it right away.
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Oliver is exactly like that with the poop. It’s hit or miss whether it ends up on the tray. I really wanted the indoor potty to work, but we didn’t bring him home till 11 weeks. She says she used shavings, but I feel like I had a choice between cleaning pee all day long or simply taking him out on a leash every few hours, which was a no brainer to me.
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It’s kinda funny because mine missed the tray 1-2 times with pee, like right on the edge, while we were first teaching him. He was standing on the tray with just his front paws. A few days later was the last time he missed - he cried about it! He came and got me and led me to it and was like, get rid of this! He never had a problem with pee after that. But the poop he didn’t quite figure out, he just held it. Which is good in it’s own way, but it was inconvenient sometimes.
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My husband said, "Sometimes puppies just do things that don't make any sense." I laughed so hard. It's been a long, long time since I've had a puppy. We lost our lab and whippet/ terrier about 5 years ago, within a few months of each other. And they were both rescues at about 4-5 years old and came to us potty trained, etc. So we've waited a long time to get another dog. We have little kids and I wanted my youngest to be potty trained himself before we got Oliver. I researched for a long time, too. All that to say, I feel like a first time mother of a newborn, LOL
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Our last dog - a Maltese... we trained to use pee pads indoors. Not this time. We trained our Havanese to use the strand of bells hung in the door. She was so trainable and swats the bells with her paw when she wants to go outside. Lots of opinions on this but we feel that once you train them to go indoors, they will. I know some people Need to have dogs go indoors on pads but we are so glad we trained our girl to use the bell. Btw your pup is beautiful. Enjoy. We will never own a different breed and may add a second to our fam

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We love Oliver so much! I can’t believe how awesome Havanese dogs are. He’s learning fetch too, which is adorable. Oh, on pottying lol. It would be cool to teach the bell training once I feel he’s reliable to have run of the house. He’s out of the ex-pen more and more especially right after he’s gone out. I tried the pee tray. He just doesn’t do it. And he doesn’t poop outdoors. It’s a work in progress, lol. I think it’ll be easier to work on poop outdoors during the summer. It’d be nice to have the indoor option but I think part of the issue is we got him at 11 weeks and the breeder had begun taking them outside vs the shavings they were going on earlier.
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I set up a bell a little while ago but the one I used was too heavy! He’s tried to ring it a couple of times, it’s cute. But we still ring it and say “outside potty” when we take him out because I do plan on replacing it with jingle bells or something one of these days.
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Aww that is cute!
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... A few days later was the last time he missed - he cried about it! He came and got me and led me to it and was like, get rid of this! ...
Perry doesn't have accidents in the house. However, a couple of months ago he must have had a poop accident in his crate (he goes in for a couple of hours when I leave for work til my housekeeper gets there). I came home and he was running around like a nut as usual. First stop is the bedroom to get changed out of my work clothes (still in that habit even years after having a shedding dog that made it a necessity! even though it's not necessary now ) He kept running around and then darting into his crate and back out to stare at me. I had no idea what was up. I got changed and then went into the bathroom, and when I came out there was once piece of poop sitting in front of the door! with him looking at it then at me, then back at it. I can only assume he was trying to tell me there was something in his crate I needed to get out and when I didn't, he got it for me so I could get rid of it! (I have never seen him eat or carry poop around before or after this).
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