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I've considered doing outdoors poop training, but I'm still left with the same problem of what happens when he's alone, unless I crate him (see sentence above).
It took us 6 months to housebreak Ricky to be 100% reliable and dependable. The idea is to teach them to "hold it" until they are allowed into that special spot, whether it is indoors or outdoors. This is a lot of work on the owners part - supervising your puppy constantly during this training period. It will happen, it just requires a lot of patience.

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I have never crated him when I'm not at home because I'm absolutely TERRIFIED that he'll eliminate in his crate while I'm gone. Then potty training will become a nightmare because he will have lost the instinct not to soil where he sleeps, right?

I've considered doing outdoors poop training, but I'm still left with the same problem of what happens when he's alone, unless I crate him (see sentence above).
Every dog I've owned, I've crate trained 4 dogs. Every single one had a couple of "accidents" in their crates. I knew they were disgusted with themselves. All of these dogs were housetrained and never soiled their crates again after the initial week of crating. I am not any kind of a pro though.
Ricky's Poppi has a point about the amount of food. That does seem like a lot of food for a puppy. My 10 lb. boy is supposed to eat 3/4 cup a day. He is very hungry and very active and gets 1 cup(and no other treats). Could it be that you might be overfeeding him?
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you have to crate him for short times at first , and as soon as you take him out of crate you have to take him outside. , and if he goes praise and reward ., pick up his poop and then play for awih ile. If he doesnt go take him in and crate him, You have to get him used to going poop outdoors first. Has he ever gone outside.?

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at four months, and if he is 5 lbs 1 cup a day would not be too much. Follow the guidelines and monitor his weight.
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I am not a canine nutritionist! so take what I say with a grain of salt. 1 cup per day sounds like a lot for a 16 week old. The more you feed them, the more they poop. Ricky is 15 pounds and 5 years old. He gets 1 cup a day for his weight maintenance ( 1/3 cup Honest Kitchen twice a day and 1/3 cup steamed vegetables once per day). His weight is very stable as an adult male. He poops 2 to 4 times a day, so three times on average.

I would talk to Finley's Vet about the amount to feed him at his age.

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at four months, and if he is 5 lbs 1 cup a day would not be too much. Follow the guidelines and monitor his weight.
I was originally giving him 3/4 cup total, but the vet told me last week that I could up his intake to 1 cup total. At 16 weeks and 6lb 11oz, how much should I be giving him? 3/4 cup total per day? Or maybe just 1/2 cup?

Edited to add: Ooops, sorry Dave, I was so tired this morning, I didn't realize you wrote that 1 cup is NOT too much.

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It took us 6 months to housebreak Ricky to be 100% reliable and dependable. The idea is to teach them to "hold it" until they are allowed into that special spot, whether it is indoors or outdoors. This is a lot of work on the owners part - supervising your puppy constantly during this training period. It will happen, it just requires a lot of patience.
Ah, that makes sense! Somehow in all my reading, I missed this point about crate training. I thought the crate was just a place to hold the dog if you couldn't watch him, to make sure he wasn't eliminating on the floor.

I am such a newbie at this, can you tell?
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Every dog I've owned, I've crate trained 4 dogs. Every single one had a couple of "accidents" in their crates. I knew they were disgusted with themselves. All of these dogs were housetrained and never soiled their crates again after the initial week of crating.
Oh wow, good to know that an accident or two won't completely ruin housetraining efforts. I thought I was doomed if the dog eliminated in the crate because I figured he then lost his "keep the crate clean" instinct. I'm relieved to hear that's not true (but of course, I will still try my best not to have that happen!).
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I was originally giving him 3/4 cup total, but the vet told me last week that I could up his intake to 1 cup total. At 16 weeks and 6lb 11oz, how much should I be giving him? 3/4 cup total per day? Or maybe just 1/2 cup?
If the Vet said recently to give him 1 cup a day, then that's what you should do.

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you have to crate him for short times at first , and as soon as you take him out of crate you have to take him outside. , and if he goes praise and reward ., pick up his poop and then play for awih ile. If he doesnt go take him in and crate him, You have to get him used to going poop outdoors first. Has he ever gone outside.?
Yes, he's gone outside in our backyard and also on walks. However, we usually take him to his indoor potty. My plan was to indoor potty train him first, because I read on here that dogs naturally prefer to go outside and that they'll lose their indoor training if I don't keep it up.

We used the crate training method when we first brought Finley home. We did exactly as you said, the only difference is that we took him to his indoor potty instead of outside. So now instead of scratching at the door or ringing bells or barking to go outside, Finley will immediately head to his indoor potty to eliminate.
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I thought the crate was just a place to hold the dog if you couldn't watch him, to make sure he wasn't eliminating on the floor.
we have always made Ricky's crate a fun place for him. The crate door is always open for him (except at night when it is bedtime). He is free to come and go as he pleases. Sometimes we put his food bowl in there for feeding. We sometimes put a couple of toys in there for him to find and play with. Sometimes he chooses to go in there just to take a nap. Therefore, he doesn't view his crate as something bad, it is a happy place for him.

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