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Specific "special" diets should be discussed with your VET before going "whole hog." Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.

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I know this discussion is old, but I want to say that 1 cup is NOT too much food for a puppy. Puppies require more food than adults. Most instructions on puppy type kibble (for those who go the kibble route) suggest this much. And usually you DECREASE the amount fed as the puppy gets older. I was feeding mine 3/4 cup and it wasn’t enough.
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I know this discussion is old, but I want to say that 1 cup is NOT too much food for a puppy. Puppies require more food than adults. Most instructions on puppy type kibble (for those who go the kibble route) suggest this much. And usually you DECREASE the amount fed as the puppy gets older. I was feeding mine 3/4 cup and it wasnít enough.
Definitely itís important to individualize like you have. I think part of it is the range in size is much wider for Havanese compared to other breeds. So one of the teeny tiny puppies might need a much smaller portion and would be completely overfed based on the bagís recommendation. Ideally a vet would be able to provide an individualized recommendation, because there are ways to calculate the approximate recommended caloric intake based on the puppyís size and weight, but itís still an estimation.

Mine eats just under 1/2 cup of kibble 2x day, and I think itís the best portion for him because it maintains his weight and it allows me to reserve calories for a few treats throughout the day. He is on the larger side.
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I know this discussion is old, but I want to say that 1 cup is NOT too much food for a puppy. Puppies require more food than adults. Most instructions on puppy type kibble (for those who go the kibble route) suggest this much. And usually you DECREASE the amount fed as the puppy gets older. I was feeding mine 3/4 cup and it wasn’t enough.
Definitely it’s important to individualize like you have. I think part of it is the range in size is much wider for Havanese compared to other breeds. So one of the teeny tiny puppies might need a much smaller portion and would be completely overfed based on the bag’s recommendation. Ideally a vet would be able to provide an individualized recommendation, because there are ways to calculate the approximate recommended caloric intake based on the puppy’s size and weight, but it’s still an estimation.

Mine eats just under 1/2 cup of kibble 2x day, and I think it’s the best portion for him because it maintains his weight and it allows me to reserve calories for a few treats throughout the day. He is on the larger side.
Yeah, I go by weight on the package. For my 6 month old I actually just raised him to 1 cup. 1/2 cup twice a day just like you, but pups need more calories per pound of body weight than adults. So when I switch to adult, I might be giving the same amount depending on his adult weight.

He was a super fast grower for a long time (even with picky eating) and has been at 8 lbs for a month or so. My breeder says the double the 16 week weight plus or minus 10% has been very effective in predicting puppies’ adult weight. She initially said 10-11 lbs and he was 6 lbs even at 16 weeks. I have a strong feeling he’ll be around 12 lbs.

I think some very healthy dog food brands have lately been lower in calories per cup, which is great unless your growing puppy won’t eat a lot at a time. So that’s an important factor. I bought a puppy food recommended by the pet store and he would have needed 1.5 cups for his weight (to keep growing). It had about 225 kcal a cup. Ended up returning bc Oliver didn’t like it. And he’s NEVER eaten more than a cup a day and that’s with a lot of exercise. He’s kind of picky as it is and often doesn’t finish his food. I think it’s fine as long as I offer but literally eating nothing is a problem lol.
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I remember reading that the high calorie puppy food is really some kind of marketing thing, and it can make it confusing to compare portions in different foods. I still fed puppy food because of the smaller pieces, though, and just did the ďfeel testĒ whenever we made changes.

Have you tried the ďfeel test?Ē No idea what the real name is! I know the really experienced members have shared instructions on how to do it, and I think someone even shared a picture once, but since I donít know what itís really called I canít really search for the threads. All I remember is that you should be able to feel their ribs, but there IS more to it than that!
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Oh I can easily feel his ribs. At times I can tell he’s not eating enough for his exercise level because I can feel his ribs far too easily.

In any case, the point w dog caloric needs is just that growing puppies need twice the calories per pound than adult dogs. Regardless of how you get there. Obviously puppies are smaller than dogs so you just have to do the math, and as you said, watch the dog
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