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Skye is almost 9 months old now. He has one little friend that he tries to mount every time he is with her. Other than that he has not shown any humping behavior. He has free run of the house and on a couple of occasions he marked just inside bedrooms doors. I cleaned it immediately and he has not marked anywhere for a couple of months now.

The only other dog we have had in our family was a large mixed breed that lived to be over 16. We had to live with the damage that we did to him with neutering him at 6 months old. He had a ruptured CCL which is very common in large breed dogs neutered before reaching maturity. I don't know if his liver problems were related to the early neutering or just old age.The evidence of damage caused by early neutering is pretty plain in large breed dogs. Not so clear in smaller dogs.

Dr. Karen Becker has some strong opinions against early neutering and neutering in general. I think you have to take what she says with a grain of salt because she is associated with a company that is selling supplements. But what she says about castration having unknown and possible harmful effects on the endocrine system does make sense. Especially if done before reaching sexual and physical maturity.

Skye's breeder has the common requirement to spay/neuter by 6 months old. After explaining my concerns and requesting an extension to 1year old she extended it to 18 months. I have talked with his Vet about neutering. Because Skye is Cryptorchid the Vet does have some concern about testicular cancer. He does feel comfortable waiting until Skye is one year old. So we will get it done some time in October after his first birthday.
What a great example of gathering all of the information, weighing the individual circumstances, talking about it with the vet, and making the best decision for your puppy.
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Jack (who is 1 today!!!) was neutered in May so he was about 10 months old when he had the surgery. Our Vet recommended that we wait as long as possible, as puppies receive health benefits from the hormones that are released as they mature. Jack was very ďactiveĒ, and we wanted him to recover before the summer began, so we chose to do it at 10 months. As far as marking in the house, he stopped around 6 months for the most part. We actively restricted him from his favorite spots, but I think he really just matured out of the behavior. The humping stopped after the surgery, which went very well expect that he hated wearing the cone. We kept it on for the full 2 weeks though. Hope this helps!
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Both of my younger boys are intact, and their breeder has in her pet contract that altering is not to happen before one year of age (and she will refund a small amount of the purchase price if you do wait until the correct time). Make sure to check your contract. I wouldn't personally be comfortable doing it any time before a year old, but everybody has their own opinion.

My one altered dog was done at 16 months. No issues with lasting marking/humping.
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After a lot of reading, we are not going to do it until at least 18 months. With all of the potential problems from hormones etc we're not taking any chances. If any behavioral issues pop up we'll deal with them.
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The funny thing is, my youngest girl does more humping than Kodi EVER did. BOTH girls mark more than Kodi does, and Kodi, even though neutered many years ago, marks too. NONE of them mark in the house because they have all been taught not to, just like they’ve been taught not to potty in the house. It really is that simple. It’s not just a matter of desexing. That may SLIGHTLY lessen the urge to hump or mark, but it doesn’t make it go away, and it is not dependent on gender. In the end, you still need to train the dog what is appropriate where.

And when it comes to humping, you need to decide what YOU think is appropriate. In our house, it is OK to hump your own toys. It is NEVER OK to hump a human, or another dog. Also not OK to hump my decorative pillows, and in Kodi’s case, no “rough sex” with the donut beds. (Because he ruins them! LOL!)
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Ack! I'm so confused about what to do now!
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I went through this with Kosmo. I would perhaps not neutered at all (it wasn't in my contract) if he had not been an "orchid", missing a testicle. I waited until 10 months.

This is a true story:

After the surgery they wheeled him out on a stainless cart (dog sized gurney) and he saw me, made eye contact, then rolled on his back and spread his legs so I could see his stitches. I felt like he was implying that something bad had been done to him and he knew I was the culprit. But, no...

At the followup appointment later we waited in a little room and when the vet walked in Kosmo scampered under my chair after making a little noise. The vet looked shocked.

I like the idea of being like the Europeans and not routinely neutering and spaying doggies. This was true before Kosmo had surgery. Anyway, you all would feel this way after post op dramas like my little Kosmo put on.

(Kosmo with my daughter as a wee laddie pictured.)

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If not for Skye's Cryptorchid condition I would very seriously consider vasectomy instead of castration. It's not real easy to find a Vet to do the vasectomy, but it can be done.
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You know, I think thw important thing is that you do your research, weigh the pros and cons and look at the reasons for and against for YOUR specific situation, then make the best decision for YOUR family and YOUR dog and donít worry too much about what other people do or say. Just donít feel pressured into a decision you donít feel comfortable with.
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You know, I think thw important thing is that you do your research, weigh the pros and cons and look at the reasons for and against for YOUR specific situation, then make the best decision for YOUR family and YOUR dog and donít worry too much about what other people do or say. Just donít feel pressured into a decision you donít feel comfortable with.
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