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Leptospirosis Vaccine

Hello all! We were told by our breeder that the Lepto vaccine was extremely dangerous for Havanese. Has anyone heard this? My new vet seemed pretty dismissive of that opinion. However with him being a new vet (last vet we used let me down badly with our sweet pup who passed in February) I don’t know who to believe. From what I understand the Lepto vaccine is needed if we’ll be going on hikes, camping, or being around standing water. We don’t really do a lot of that but I’d say a couple times a year we’ll go and walk a short trail through the Georgia woods. I want the best for Dahlia in keeping her happy and healthy and I don’t want to take any unnecessary risks with her health either way. Help!!
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Ugh, it really bugs me that this seems to be a common reaction from vets even though itís an optional vaccine. We opted to do it the first time around because of an immunocompromised family member but we did not renew it and donít plan to. There are many mutations of the virus and the vaccine doesnít protect against all of them. Iím not suggesting that you do or donít, Iím saying your vet being dismissive is annoying. I suggest looking into the types and frequency of the virus where you live and reading about it before you make the decision.
In my area infection is extremely rare.

From what I understand it is specifically recommended against for the Havanese breed unless it should be considered because of a breakout in a certain region, which I didnít know at the time. I thought it was like a lot of other vaccination controversies where everything has to be taken with a grain of salt. Fortunately, my vet was not pushy about it, we discussed it and we knew there were SOME risks, I just didnít realize how common they are. I donít regret the decision we made at the time, but I feel extremely fortunate we didnít encounter the side effects and I personally donít think the benefits outweigh the risks in the future. We take the same precautions to prevent Lepto that we do to prevent giardia, which is super common in my region - we donít let our dog drink from standing water, streams, lakes, etc. and we donít let him chew on ďoutside stuff,Ē especially in dog parks.
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Thanks for the responses! I’ve got a little time to decide but that’s all really good information! I’ll do a little research to see if Georgia has a high incident rate of the disease. Plus, I’m gonna check my other girls shot records and see if they had it. They aren’t Havi’s but now I’m curious.
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We do walk in the woods with our dogs. Often. We do not allow them to drink from puddles or other standing water. We ALWAYS carry water for them, even on sidewalk walks. We ask, "do you want a drink?" and they come right to us. They are not in any danger from standing water.

We do not give Lepto virus. Our vet agrees with our decision.


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Our breeder said this, and I was concerned and unsure of what to do. I’m of the unpopular opinion that breeders are not necessarily always right w regards to medical decisions such as vaccines. The vet then said he doesn’t do them usually either. He says there’s not lepto here and there are potential side effects. I was very comfortable skipping this one after both opinions concurred.
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We do walk in the woods with our dogs. Often. We do not allow them to drink from puddles or other standing water. We ALWAYS carry water for them, even on sidewalk walks. We ask, "do you want a drink?" and they come right to us. They are not in any danger from standing water.

We do not give Lepto virus. Our vet agrees with our decision.
I agree with this in any case. I always carry water because there are any number of problems with standing or recycled water that aren’t necessarily lepto. I was recently walking Oliver by a sprinkler in Boise and it said clearly “do not drink” because it’s recycled intended for watering only.
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Not always a personal decision - if it were I wouldn't be giving it... but for us it's a requirement here in Uganda (annually) - the DHLPP vaccine (and since we travel in and out, I can't get away with skipping it like I might if we never had to deal with the authorities). So, we give it, but I space it out from his rabies vaccine (not both the same week - usually 2 weeks apart), and so far Perry's been fine with it. If we were somewhere where it was optional though he might have gotten the first one, but wouldn't have gotten any boosters after that (he also would be getting the 3 year rabies vaccine instead of annual like we have to do).
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