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Kojo won't take pill

He still gets car sick so trying to give him Cerenia. Tried peanut butter (won't take a lick), yogurt (he loves but spit out pill), turkey deli meat (spit it out), cheese, ball of canned puppy food. I haven't found a single treat he will eat so hesitant to try pill pockets. Treats he won't eat are Blue Buffalo Bits, Mother Hubbard Peanutter mini biscuit, Fruitables (pumpkin berry or apple bacon. Refuses Greenies.

Anyone else have a picky eater.
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Mine is picky but will eat a ball of cheese for a pill. My girl goes crazy for things that are freeze dried like instinct freeze dried raw mixers or liver treats. Acana makes a lamb and apple freeze dried treat she loves too. Good luck,



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Cerenia is very bitter tasting. Maybe something sweet to counteract the taste. I used to pill my dog with the Cerenia. He would find it and spit it out of any food.
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To give Danny his Phenobarbital we cut a piece of Weiner about 3/8" wide put the pill in the middle. It is small enough he does about two chews and swallows. If its to big we have had trouble if its to small we have had troubles.
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A car trip I hope never happens again. As soon as Kojo in car seat, very nervous and salivating. Five minutes down the road he pooped in car seat and had poop all over him. (probably nervous reaction). He was so upset about poop all over him. So canceled trip to friends and went back home. A block from house he barfed all over my center console. So obviously he didn't swallow the Cerenia.

Came home and gave him a bath and then cleaned up car. Maybe Kojo isn't getting motion sick. He's having a panic attack (extreme anxiety.). Maybe he needs something to calm him down instead of preventing motion sickness.

More trips like this will only increase his fear of riding in car.

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That sounds horrible! My vet says that most dogs that get car sick from anxiety not motion. He said something like 90%? But he feels that Shadow is part of the small % that can't handle the motion. Shadow is not nervous about the car, no drooling, he actually seems to be enjoying the ride and begs to go in the car. Then after a mile or so, he hangs his head and vomits.
Cerenia did not work for Shadow at all. I did give it to my previous dog to control vomiting and it was a miracle for him. He had other health issues(not car/motion related).
You might try to just sit in the car with him for a few minutes, give him a treat. Don't go anywhere. Do it often. Bring a toy. Start small.
There is some anti-anxiety music on y-tube.
I had gotten some Composure(made by VetriScience) that seemed help calm my other dog when he was afraid of fireworks. My vet gave me some and I later ordered them from Chewy. Maybe try those?
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My vet wasn't sure if Perry's sick in the car issues was motion sick or anxiety (personally I think it's both) so we decided to try cerenia first and then she suggested we try gabapentin next if this doesn't work.

Does he like peanut butter at all? Or another (pet ok) nut butter? Or other substance that could coat the pill AND your fingers? I realized for Perry that the trick with pills was to coat the pill in peanut butter but also have enough extra on my fingers that he licks the pill off and then continues to lick the peanut butter... so that by the time my fingers were completely cleaned off, the pill would have gone down completely too.

Also, remember that the cerenia needs to be given 2 hours before travel (with food - though my vet said to give the food an hour before the pill and the website says to give it with the pills). We've tried it once so far and it worked well - no vomit despite having eaten (with bonine, etc I can't feed him at all and he still drools heavily and sometimes throws up).

I do think Perry does have anxiety too - but the calming chews didn't work for him (they were even harder to get him to eat)...
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Shadow can detect pills but this has worked. I hand feed him a couple kernels of his food which he loves. Then I coat a couple with peanut butter. Then I coat the pill with peanut butter. It seems like once he gets the momentum going that he is getting something, he eats the pill right up no problem!
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That sounds like stress to me because thatís what my puppy did the first time we left him alone.

As far as pills, mine is incredibly skilled at getting the pill out of whatever itís wrapped it. I have to coat the pill in something sticky like cream cheese or peanut butter so itís harder to separate from the food, but alone those arenít enticing enough so i have to stick that in some kind of meat. Usually something I never let him have, like a sliver of hot dog. He still manages to spit it out sometimes, though, so I have to watch. Heís super smart, too, so if I act like nothing is in it and itís really yummy heís much more likely to smack it up, even though Iím pretty sure he knows itís there.

I agree to check with the vet about the anxiety vs. just motion sickness. I was told by a tech that the anxiety meds with less severe side effects are safer and cheaper, but the downside is they have to take them every day, not just before a stressful event. I didnít talk to the vet directly about it so Iím sure itís more complex than that.
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Since we got one of these swings for the little puppies, I don't believe there has been one with motion sickness. I'm not sure if it would work for an older dog, but feel like it would be worth a try.

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