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2 weeks to go!! Still lots of ?s

As I get ready for Seda's arrival, I am still somewhat confused on how to use the crate and x-pen for potty training :/ Should we plan to use her crate and potty station (pad) outside the pen as we try and create a schedule (eat, play, potty,crate etc ). Then use the pen only for short periods of time with a play, sleep, eat area as well as a pad? Not sure if this sounds confusing......

We do plan to keep her in her crate in our upstairs bedroom at night with a potty pad in our bathroom to take her to if she needs a night time potty....

I appreciate all the advise I get from all the "experts" on this forum!!
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Different arrangements seem to work best for different people and puppies. The critical point is that she should be given no more freedom than she can handle accident free. If she's not in a crate or Ex-pen, you have to LITERALLY be watching her EVERY SECOND, to prevent accidents. Every accident you allow will extend the length of time it takes to get her reliably potty trained. (not that you WON'T have accidents, but the GOAL should be as few as possible.

She should NEVER be out of your sight until she is pretty darned reliable, and if she makes mistakes, you need to go back to more careful supervision. Look up Tom King's posts on potty training puppies. He has successfully potty trained more puppies than anyone I know!


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This is the setup I am using now during the day. Crates at one end, potty pad on the side and plenty of play room. At night the puppies are in their crates. Their room is right off my bedroom so when they stir at night, I hear them and can let them right out that door to the backyard.
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What the smaller crate is used for is it becomes their den or safe place it is good for a lot of reasons. I was told it can teach them bladder control.
A 8 week old puppy should start of more in the smaller crate especially if you want to teach them to go out doors. They will not soil their den I was told start with a hour at a time take her out side play get exercise maybe a hour in and a hour out.At the end of the play time go out side again and back in the crate. You build up the time but I do not like to have a pup left for more than three hours. This works if you are a stay at home mom.
If you are working then the total crate at night will still teach them to feel secure in the crate and learn bladder control you need to have it somewhere where you will here her wake up. And either take her out side or use your indoor set up.
I knew how to do all this but my problem is I can not stand to here a puppy cry so I am having a much harder time house training. It is hard to be consistent. If you are able to tune your ears off with the crying you will have success much faster.

PS Jacqueline I love your set up! I would have to have a top because Maddie climbed out of her x pin

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congrats! This is what I did and it worked for us. I gated off our kitchen as it has hard wood and I am in it most of the day. Lizzie came into the family room ONLY supervised and I mean constant eyes on her. I started a potty schedule of taking her out EVERY hour. EVERY time I took her out I would take her paw and ring the potty bell and say "ring the potty bells". At night she was in her crate in the kitchen (our room is on the main floor so I can hear her) and I woke up every 4 hours to take her outside and then I got up once a night and then not at all. She was never left out of our sight until about 8 months of age. She was pretty reliable and now at 101/2 months we are accident free.

She hardly rings the bells now as she is always by my side and I can read her signals. She will ring them if I am busy and she really has to go. Most often though I ask her if she has to go. You can just tell after awhile.

I never used a pad. Just always went outside-rain,shine, snow and even a tornado watch. I can see how they might be handy, though.

Out crate is 36 inches I think and I partitioned it off so she could use half when she was little. That way she would not go potty in the other half.

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This is the setup I am using now during the day. Crates at one end, potty pad on the side and plenty of play room. At night the puppies are in their crates. Their room is right off my bedroom so when they stir at night, I hear them and can let them right out that door to the backyard.
Thanks for the great photo ! A visual is always great. How did you start your puppies out with training? Did you train them in the pen? i.e.: keeping them in their crate in the pen then letting them out to potty and play then back in the crate....or did you just leave the crate open in the pen? My husband and I are both in healthcare and our work hours are variable. There is someone home about 80% of the time, but there will be times when our puppy will be home alone for a few hours, thus we really want her to be able to potty inside in the safety of a pen.....
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Here is a picture for you to show you what I did. I was able to enclose an area next to the kitchen with a wonderful free-standing gate. That became her home or ex-pen. She came to me from the breeder at 10 weeks trained on a pee pad. As you can see, i have set up the pee -pad in the tray and also a crate, a blanket, food and water and toys in this area. During the day I could easily step over the gate and go into this area and play and kiss her etc. She would run over the the pad to pee when she had the urge.When she got tired she would go into her crate or lay on a blanket to sleep. At night, I would put her in the crate, and take her up to the bedroom and put the crate on a chair next to the bed so she could see me.If she would stir during the night and whine a bit, I would take her out and put her on a pee pad that I kept in the room. After she went, I would quietly praise her, put her back in the crate and she would sleep until morning. I got Whimsy in the spring, so during the day I could take her outside to play etc.
Now that Whimsy is almost a year, she has the run of the house when I am home (which is all day because I'm retired,) still uses a pee pad...sleeps with me all night long,and basically turned into a perfect little loving companion for me.( My husband adores her too ) Hope this has helped.
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