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Hi, I have a question about gates and was hoping you all had some good advice. Not sure when we will need them as the puppy will have an ex-pen for the time being, but at some point, when he can come out and play somewhere, how do I figure out what to do about gates? How many do I really need?

Our house is a crazy contemporary and on the main level, I have 6 doorways without doors and two sets of stairs. Do I need gates for all of these doors?? If I am in the kitchen for example, there are 3 doorways. The dining room also has 3, although I don't expect him to be in there, I'd like to block it off with him on the other side. Is there some other option that I am not thinking of?

We have a retractable gate on one set of stairs outside my 9-year-old daughter's room left from when she was little that my husband insists on using still. There is a 4-5" gap where the molding is so I imagine the puppy would slip right through that as my daughter does when she is the first to wake up on the weekends! We have 5 staircases without doors or gates as well. Do I need to gate all of those?? This sounds crazy!

At what point do I not need gates at all? Assuming he will always have an ex-pen or similar area for when we are all out of the house. How do you pick and choose what to gate off? I guess I could get the pressure mount gates and then move them from room to room, but that seems like it would be more of a hassle. Any advice would be welcome!

My youngest was 3 when we moved here so we never gated anything except the one staircase outside her room. Thanks!
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Depending on how far apart the doorways are, could you just open the expen up and use that across all of them?

Our house doesn’t have doorways except into the bedrooms so we just have expens blocking things. We have one blocking the kitchen into one space. Another blocking the living room. Since those are the 2 rooms we are in the most. With bedrooms, doors can be closed <img src="http://www.havaneseforum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
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Itís really up to you and how you live, and what kind of freedom he has, and his personality, once heís an adult.

I took apart an extra wire ex pen to make 2 gates and did trials of them in different places before I decided where to install real gates. I knew I would need them in part because we have a pretty open floor plan and because my kids are in and out so much. You can always use an ex-pen to get ideas since theyíre adjustable. Both of our downstairs gates act as vestibules to prevent him from getting outside if weíre answering the door or bringing in groceries. I also have one on my bedroom door that I intended to take down eventually but I still like to use (he sleeps in our room). I also still occasionally use the 2-section ďgateĒ I made from the extra ex-pen and because itís easy to carry around.

If I were in a house like what you have described, I would get an extra ex-pen and use that as gates, because itís light and easy to move around, easy to adapt to different doorways and rooms. Then re-evaluate when the puppy is closer to potty trained, maybe when heís around 8-12 months old, and consider what has worked best.

You could also get an adjustable doorway type gate, but keep in mind they take like 10 minutes to adjust each time you move it to a different room.

Personally, I would also want as few as possible. By blocking off the bottom of the stairs, I have all of the upstairs doorways covered. They can be kind of obstructive, so I would only want them where I really need them the most. I feel like the right amount of freedom for my potty trained, adult Havanese is to be on the same floor as me if heís not in an expen. He doesnít need to be wandering around by himself upstairs when Iím downstairs, mostly because I donít know what makeup DD left on the floor in her room. How much freedom yours has is really dependent on what you want.
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Hi, I have a question about gates and was hoping you all had some good advice. Not sure when we will need them as the puppy will have an ex-pen for the time being, but at some point, when he can come out and play somewhere, how do I figure out what to do about gates? How many do I really need?

Our house is a crazy contemporary and on the main level, I have 6 doorways without doors and two sets of stairs. Do I need gates for all of these doors?? If I am in the kitchen for example, there are 3 doorways. The dining room also has 3, although I don't expect him to be in there, I'd like to block it off with him on the other side. Is there some other option that I am not thinking of?

We have a retractable gate on one set of stairs outside my 9-year-old daughter's room left from when she was little that my husband insists on using still. There is a 4-5" gap where the molding is so I imagine the puppy would slip right through that as my daughter does when she is the first to wake up on the weekends! We have 5 staircases without doors or gates as well. Do I need to gate all of those?? This sounds crazy!

At what point do I not need gates at all? Assuming he will always have an ex-pen or similar area for when we are all out of the house. How do you pick and choose what to gate off? I guess I could get the pressure mount gates and then move them from room to room, but that seems like it would be more of a hassle. Any advice would be welcome!

My youngest was 3 when we moved here so we never gated anything except the one staircase outside her room. Thanks!
We expanded the rooms our puppies were allowed in slowly, starting with easy-clean floors. First, just the kitchen. (we have 3 doorways too, and two of them are very wide) Then we took up the family room rug, and added the family room, but ONLY with a LOT of supervision. Then my office. EVENTUALLY the whole downstairs.

They are STILL gated out of the upstairs, but that's for a different reason. "Goldilocks" (AKA Panda) goes up and UNMAKES every bed if she is allowed up there unsupervised. They are also gated out of the front hallway, because they yell at squirrels under the oak tree across the driveway, and drive me NUTS! So THOSE gates are permanent.
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Itís really up to you and how you live, and what kind of freedom he has, and his personality, once heís an adult.

I took apart an extra wire ex pen to make 2 gates and did trials of them in different places before I decided where to install real gates. I knew I would need them in part because we have a pretty open floor plan and because my kids are in and out so much. You can always use an ex-pen to get ideas since theyíre adjustable. Both of our downstairs gates act as vestibules to prevent him from getting outside if weíre answering the door or bringing in groceries. I also have one on my bedroom door that I intended to take down eventually but I still like to use (he sleeps in our room). I also still occasionally use the 2-section ďgateĒ I made from the extra ex-pen and because itís easy to carry around.

If I were in a house like what you have described, I would get an extra ex-pen and use that as gates, because itís light and easy to move around, easy to adapt to different doorways and rooms. Then re-evaluate when the puppy is closer to potty trained, maybe when heís around 8-12 months old, and consider what has worked best.

You could also get an adjustable doorway type gate, but keep in mind they take like 10 minutes to adjust each time you move it to a different room.

Personally, I would also want as few as possible. By blocking off the bottom of the stairs, I have all of the upstairs doorways covered. They can be kind of obstructive, so I would only want them where I really need them the most. I feel like the right amount of freedom for my potty trained, adult Havanese is to be on the same floor as me if heís not in an expen. He doesnít need to be wandering around by himself upstairs when Iím downstairs, mostly because I donít know what makeup DD left on the floor in her room. How much freedom yours has is really dependent on what you want.
The flip side of that is that we use more expensive tension gates with "people gates" in them. So we can easily walk through the gates any time we want without moving them. They were also really convenient while my granddaughter was living here!


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The flip side of that is that we use more expensive tension gates with "people gates" in them. So we can easily walk through the gates any time we want without moving them. They were also really convenient while my granddaughter was living here!
Theyíre also nice to avoid drilling woodwork until you know where you want gates long term.
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Theyíre also nice to avoid drilling woodwork until you know where you want gates long term.
Yes, the ONLY place we have anything that is drilled into the wall os in our upstairs hallway, and that was to keep my granddaughter away from the top of the stair. There was no place where we could place a tension gate there. (I can't remember why)


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This is the only gate we have left. It leads to the area by the front door adjacent to my DH’s office. It’s basically a little room for him when we leave or he’s getting in trouble. He otherwise doesn’t go in there lol. Now, I’ll be setting up the ex pens again! I like this kind of gate for long term because it’s pretty but easy to set up without doing anything to the wall.
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This is the only gate we have left. It leads to the area by the front door adjacent to my DHís office. Itís basically a little room for him when we leave or heís getting in trouble. He otherwise doesnít go in there lol. Now, Iíll be setting up the ex pens again! I like this kind of gate for long term because itís pretty but easy to set up without doing anything to the wall.
Yes, ours are white, but thatís the kind we have too. The only thing is, Pixel was so small, she could walk through them! So we had to put plexiglass panels on them to keep our little hamster-sized cutie in! LOL!


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We used pressure gates like that when we had Appa. We must have had them too tight because paint came off the walls when we removed them. Lol.

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