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Hello Havi friends! I’m so curious to know if Jojo’s color will change! Her mom is white chocolate and her dad was dark solid black with cream feet. Her dad is not chocolate but carries the chocolate gene. I also saw her aunt (mom’s sister). She was dark chocolate with silvering. Her coat was growing back in dark chocolate after a haircut. Jojo’s litter was her mom’s very first. I’m so excited to see how my pretty little pup will look in her adult coat! This is a picture of her paw that I think is silvering?? Any way to tell? Any good educated guesses?
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Silvering doesn't usually start on the feet. It is most common around the eyes. Is Jojo's base color chocolate or black. You can tell not from her coat color but her skin color. if her nose and eye rims are black, her base color is black. If her eye rims and nose are brown, she is genetically chocolate. (which can happen, even with a black sire, as he could carry chocolate) I can't tell for sure from your avatar because it's small. She LOOKS like she is chocolate?

Silver comes in two types. If a dog gets two copies of the gene, they start silvering very early, and she would probably show a lot of silvering on her face before she went to her permanent home. So you'd know by now. If they carry only a single copy, expression can be all over the place. Not only in terms of how MUCH they show, but also in terms of WHEN it shows. We suspect that Pixel carries a single copy. We know it is in her family on both sides because there was a two-copy, BRIGHT silver in her litter. Often black puppies that are going to silver turn brownish in adolescence, and she did that. So we were excited to see what was going to happen. She developed a lovely wide streak of silver in her tail and tufts of silver behind each ear. ...And then they COMPLETELY went away again! LOL! So now she's our adorable, completely black dog again. (except for her tiny white markings she has had since birth)

I know other single-copy silvers who have alternated from black with a sprinkle of white hairs to a sort of charcoal color and back off and on through their lives. I haven't known many chocolates, and none that I know of that also carried the silver gene, but I would assume that expression would be similar, but just on the chocolate base. The only difference being that it would probably be harder to see on most chocolates just because most chocolates fade at least to some extent as they mature. And THAT is most likely what you are seeing on her feet, rather than silvering.
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Thank you, Karen! You are such a wealth of great Havanese knowledge and experience! Jojo is chocolate! Liver nose, lips, eye rims. I don’t think she has 2 silver copies as her whole little face is dark brown as is the rest of her except for a little wisp of white on her chest. I’ve been so curious as to what
Her coat will end up like and saw the little bits of Carmel color on the bottoms of her paws. I guess with just one copy (which I don’t even know if she has that?). we will just have to wait and see! Time will tell and I LOVE all colors of Havanese!!!
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BTW here is a picture of her face. 00A77EC6-7558-4D8F-93DB-93B0A2B4F826_1601762042897.jpg
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Here’s my example!

Everything Karen said is exactly right (which is typical&#128523! Jodie is currently 20 months. The first pic is Jodie at nine weeks when we spent the night at the breeder’s house. The 2nd and 3rd are current photos. Jodie’s Mom is white and her Dad is black and white. Our 15 year old began as black and beige and is now mostly black/silver with off white legs. Cotton is still all white with a touch of peach on each ear. In 15 years I have never seen color change as dramatic as Jodie!
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O yes, every new pic of your Jojo is as just as precious as the last one��
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Ok, Karen how do I get that icon of the head slamming on a brick wall?🙃
Jojo Jojo Jojo
I will not spell Jojo’s name wrong
I will not...
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Haha Jodie is lovely!!! I don’t know how you keep names Jojo and Jodie straight! I can’t even keep my kids names straight and they aren’t even similar!
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Oops now auto correct changed your name from Ja Ja to Ha Ha!!!! Wow🤪
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Jaja, those pictures are awesome! the progression of the dramatic color change is so fun to see!
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